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John Stockwell
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The Secret Wars of the CIA</p>
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<p> [The Other Americas Radio; A two-part speech.]</p>
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<p>John Stockwell is the highest-ranking CIA official ever to leave the agency
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and go public. He ran a CIA intelligence-gathering post in Vietnam, was the
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task-force commander of the CIA's secret war in Angola in 1975 and 1976, and
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was awarded the Medal of Merit before he resigned. Stockwell's book "In Search
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of Enemies", published by W.W. Norton 1978, is an international best-seller.
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This is a transcript of a lecture he gave in June, 1986.</p>
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<p>The policy of "The Other Americas Radio" regarding reproducing this lecture is
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that while they would like to see it reproduced and passed around as much as
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possible, they also need money to operate (they are not-for-profit). Thus,
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please pass a copy of this transcript on, and if you like the transcript, send
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a donation to them (the tape costs 13 dollars, and they have other tapes as
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well) at:</p>
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<p> The Other Americas Radio
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Programs & News on Latin America.
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KCSB-FM, Box 85
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Santa Barbara, CA 93102
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(805) 569-5381</p>
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<p>For the on-line (electronic) version of this transcription, contact
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toad@spice.cs.cmu.edu on the ARPA network, or retrieve, via FTP, the
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file /usr/toad/text/talk/speech.doc or /usr/toad/text/talk/speech.mss
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from the SPICE.CS.CMU.EDU vax. Also available as a paper manuscript, or
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digitally on disk. Write to P.O.Box 81795, Pittsburgh, PA 15217.</p>
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<div>======================================================================</div>
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<p> "The Inner Workings of the National Security Council and the
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CIA's Covert Actions in Angola, Central America and Vietnam"</p>
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<p>I did 13 years in the CIA altogether. I sat on a subcommittee of the NSC, so
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I was like a chief of staff, with the GS-18s (like 3-star generals) Henry
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Kissinger, Bill Colby (the CIA director), the GS-18s and the CIA, making the
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important decisions and my job was to put it all together and make it happen
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and run it, an interesting place from which to watch a covert action being
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done....</p>
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<p>I testified for days before the Congress, giving them chapter and verse, date
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and detail, proving specific lies. They were asking if we had to do with S.
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Africa, that was fighting in the country. In fact we were coordinating this
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operation so closely that our airplanes, full of arms from the states, would
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meet their airplanes in Kinshasa and they would take our arms into Angola to
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distribute to our forces for us....</p>
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<p>What I found with all of this study is that the subject, the problem, if you
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will, for the world, for the U.S. is much, much, much graver, astronomically
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graver, than just Angola and Vietnam. I found that the Senate Church
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committee has reported, in their study of covert actions, that the CIA ran
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several thousand covert actions since 1961, and that the heyday of covert
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action was before 1961; that we have run several hundred covert actions a
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year, and the CIA has been in business for a total of 37 years.</p>
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<p>What we're going to talk about tonight is the United States national security
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syndrome. We're going to talk about how and why the U.S. manipulates the
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press. We're going to talk about how and why the U.S. is pouring money into
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El Salvador, and preparing to invade Nicaragua; how all of this concerns us so
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directly. I'm going to try to explain to you the other side of terrorism;
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that is, the other side of what Secretary of State Shultz talks about. In
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doing this, we'll talk about the Korean war, the Vietnam war, and the Central
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American war.</p>
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<p>Everything I'm going to talk to you about is represented, one way or another,
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already in the public records. You can dig it all out for yourselves, without
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coming to hear me if you so chose. Books, based on information gotten out of
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the CIA under the freedom of information act, testimony before the Congress,
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hearings before the Senate Church committee, research by scholars, witness of
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people throughout the world who have been to these target areas that we'll be
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talking about. I want to emphasize that my own background is profoundly
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conservative. We come from South Texas, East Texas....</p>
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<p>I was conditioned by my training, my marine corps training, and my background,
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to believe in everything they were saying about the cold war, and I took the
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job with great enthusiasm (in the CIA) to join the best and the brightest of
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the CIA, of our foreign service, to go out into the world, to join the
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struggle, to project American values and save the world for our brand of
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democracy. And I believed this. I went out and worked hard....</p>
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<p>What I really got out of these 6 years in Africa was a sense ... that nothing
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we were doing in fact defended U.S. national security interests very much. We
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didn't have many national security interests in Bujumbura, Burundi, in the
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heart of Africa. I concluded that I just couldn't see the point.</p>
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<p>We were doing things it seemed because we were there, because it was our
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function, we were bribing people, corrupting people, and not protecting the
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U.S. in any visible way. I had a chance to go drinking with this Larry Devlin,
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a famous CIA case officer who had overthrown Patrice Lumumba, and had him
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killed in 1960, back in the Congo. He was moving into the Africa division
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Chief. I talked to him in Addis Ababa at length one night, and he was giving
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me an explanation - I was telling him frankly, 'sir, you know, this stuff
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doesn't make any sense, we're not saving anybody from anything, and we are
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corrupting people, and everybody knows we're doing it, and that makes the U.S.
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look bad'.</p>
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<p>And he said I was getting too big for my britches. He said, you're trying to
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think like the people in the NSC back in Washington who have the big picture,
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who know what's going on in the world, who have all the secret information,
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and the experience to digest it. If they decide we should have someone in
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Bujumbura, Burundi, and that person should be you, then you should do your
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job, and wait until you have more experience, and you work your way up to that
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point, then you will understand national security, and you can make the big
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decisions. Now, get to work, and stop, you know, this philosophizing.</p>
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<p>And I said, 'Aye-aye sir, sorry sir, a bit out of line sir'. It's a very
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powerful argument, our presidents use it on us. President Reagan has used it
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on the American people, saying, 'if you knew what I know about the situation
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in Central America, you would understand why it's necessary for us to
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intervene.'</p>
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<p>I went back to Washington, however, and I found that others shared my concern.
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A formal study was done in the State Department and published internally,
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highly classified, called the Macomber [sp?] report, concluding that the CIA
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had no business being in Africa for anything it was known to be doing, that
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our presence there was not justified, there were no national security
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interests that the CIA could address any better than the ambassador himself.
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We didn't need to have bribery and corruption as a tool for doing business in
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Africa at that time.</p>
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<p>I went from ... a tour in Washington to Vietnam. And there, my career, and my
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life, began to get a little bit more serious. They assigned me a country. It
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was during the cease-fire, '73 to '75. There was no cease-fire. Young men
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were being slaughtered. I saw a slaughter. 300 young men that the South
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Vietnamese army ambushed. Their bodies brought in and laid out in a lot next
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to my compound. I was up-country in Tay-ninh. They were laid out next door,
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until the families could come and claim them and take them away for burial.</p>
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<p>I thought about this. I had to work with the sadistic police chief. When I
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reported that he liked to carve people with knives in the CIA safe-house -
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when I reported this to my bosses, they said, '(1). The post was too important
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to close down. (2). They weren't going to get the man transferred or fired
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because that would make problems, political problems, and he was very good at
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working with us in the operations he worked on. (3). Therefore if I didn't
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have the stomach for the job, that they could transfer me.'</p>
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<p>But they hastened to point out, if I did demonstrate a lack of 'moral fiber'
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to handle working with the sadistic police chief, that I wouldn't get another
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good job in the CIA, it would be a mark against my career.</p>
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<p>So I kept the job, I closed the safe-house down, I told my staff that I didn't
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approve of that kind of activity, and I proceeded to work with him for the
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next 2 years, pretending that I had reformed him, and he didn't do this sort
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of thing anymore. The parallel is obvious with El Salvador today, where the
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CIA, the state department, works with the death squads.</p>
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<p>They don't meet the death squads on the streets where they're actually
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chopping up people or laying them down on the street and running trucks over
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their heads. The CIA people in San Salvador meet the police chiefs, and the
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people who run the death squads, and they do liaise with them, they meet them
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beside the swimming pool of the villas. And it's a sophisticated, civilized
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kind of relationship. And they talk about their children, who are going to
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school at UCLA or Harvard and other schools, and they don't talk about the
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horrors of what's being done. They pretend like it isn't true.</p>
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<p>What I ran into in addition to that was a corruption in the CIA and the
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intelligence business that made me question very seriously what it was all
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about, including what I was doing ... risking my life ... what I found was
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that the CIA, us, the case officers, were not permitted to report about the
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corruption in the South Vietnamese army....</p>
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<p>Now, the corruption was so bad, that the S. Vietnamese army was a skeleton
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army. Colonels would let the troops go home if they would come in once a
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month and sign the pay vouchers so the colonel could pocket the money. Then
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he could sell half of the uniforms and boots and M-16's to the communist
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forces - that was their major supply, just as it is in El Salvador today. He
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could use half of the trucks to haul produce, half of the helicopters to haul
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heroin.</p>
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<p>And the Army couldn't fight. And we lived with it, and we saw it, and there
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was no doubt - everybody talked about it openly. We could provide all kinds
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of proof, and they wouldn't let us report it. Now this was a serious problem
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because the south was attacked in the winter of 1975, and it collapsed like a
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big vase hit by a sledgehammer. And the U.S. was humiliated, and that was the
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dramatic end of our long involvement in Vietnam....</p>
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<p>I had been designated as the task-force commander that would run this secret
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war [in Angola in 1975 and 1976].... and what I figured out was that in this
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job, I would sit on a sub-committee of the National Security Council, this
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office that Larry Devlin has told me about where they had access to all the
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information about Angola, about the whole world, and I would finally
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understand national security. And I couldn't resist the opportunity to know.
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I knew the CIA was not a worthwhile organization, I had learned that the hard
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way. But the question was where did the U.S. government fit into this thing,
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and I had a chance to see for myself in the next big secret war....</p>
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<p>I wanted to know if wise men were making difficult decisions based on truly
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important, threatening information, threatening to our national security
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interests. If that had been the case, I still planned to get out of the CIA,
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but I would know that the system, the invisible government, our national
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security complex, was in fact justified and worth while. And so I took the
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job.... Suffice it to say I wouldn't be standing in front of you tonight if I
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had found these wise men making these tough decisions. What I found, quite
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frankly, was fat old men sleeping through sub-committee meetings of the NSC in
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which we were making decisions that were killing people in Africa. I mean
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literally. Senior ambassador Ed Mulcahy... would go to sleep in nearly every
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one of these meetings....</p>
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<p>You can change the names in my book [about Angola] and you've got
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Nicaragua.... the basic structure, all the way through including the mining
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of harbors, we addressed all of these issues. The point is that the U.S. led
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the way at every step of the escalation of the fighting. We said it was the
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Soviets and the Cubans that were doing it. It was the U.S. that was
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escalating the fighting. There would have been no war if we hadn't gone in
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first. We put arms in, they put arms in. We put advisors in, they answered
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with advisors. We put in Zairian para-commando battalions, they put in Cuban
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army troops. We brought in the S. African army, they brought in the Cuban
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army. And they pushed us away. They blew us away because we were lying, we
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were covering ourselves with lies, and they were telling the truth. And it
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was not a war that we could fight. We didn't have interests there that should
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have been defended that way.</p>
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<p>There was never a study run that evaluated the MPLA, FNLA and UNITA, the three
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movements in the country, to decide which one was the better one. The
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assistant secretary of state for African affairs, Nathaniel Davis, no
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bleeding-heart liberal (he was known by some people in the business as the
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butcher of Santiago), he said we should stay out of the conflict and work with
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whoever eventually won, and that was obviously the MPLA. Our consul in
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Luanda, Tom Killoran, vigorously argued that the MPLA was the best qualified
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to run the country and the friendliest to the U.S.</p>
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<p>We brushed these people aside, forced Nat Davis to resign, and proceeded with
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our war. The MPLA said they wanted to be our friends, they didn't want to be
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pushed into the arms of the Soviet Union; they begged us not to fight them,
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they wanted to work with us. We said they wanted a cheap victory, they wanted
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a walk-over, they wanted to be un-opposed, that we wouldn't give them a cheap
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victory, we would make them earn it, so to speak. And we did. 10000
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Africans died and they won the victory that they were winning anyway.</p>
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<p>Now, the most significant thing that I got out of all of this, in addition to
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the fact that our rationales were basically false, was that we lied. To just
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about everybody involved. One third of my staff in this task force that I put
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together in Washington, commanding this global operation, pulling strings all
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over the world to focus pressure onto Angola, and military activities into
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Angola, one third of my staff was propagandists, who were working, in every
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way they could think of, to get stories into the U.S. press, the world press,
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to create this picture of Cubans raping Angolans, Cubans and Soviets
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introducing arms into the conflict, Cubans and Russians trying to take over
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the world.</p>
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<p>Our ambassador to the United Nations, Patrick Moynihan, he read continuous
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statements of our position to the Security Council, the general assembly, and
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the press conferences, saying the Russians and Cubans were responsible for the
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conflict, and that we were staying out, and that we deplored the
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militarization of the conflict.</p>
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<p>And every statement he made was false. And every statement he made was
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originated in the sub-committee of the NSC that I sat on as we managed this
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thing. The state department press person read these position papers daily to
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the press. We would write papers for him. Four paragraphs. We would call
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him on the phone and say, 'call us 10 minutes before you go on, the situation
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could change overnight, we'll tell you which paragraph to read. And all four
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paragraphs would be false. Nothing to do with the truth. Designed to play on
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events, to create this impression of Soviet and Cuban aggression in Angola.
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When they were in fact responding to our initiatives.</p>
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<p>And the CIA director was required by law to brief the Congress. This CIA
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director Bill Colby - the same one that dumped our people in Vietnam - he gave
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36 briefings of the Congress, the oversight committees, about what we were
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doing in Angola. And he lied. At 36 formal briefings. And such lies are
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perjury, and it's a felony to lie to the Congress.</p>
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<p>He lied about our relationship with South Africa. We were working closely
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with the South African army, giving them our arms, coordinating battles with
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them, giving them fuel for their tanks and armored cars. He said we were
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staying well away from them. They were concerned about these white
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mercenaries that were appearing in Angola, a very sensitive issue, hiring
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whites to go into a black African country, to help you impose your will on
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that black African country by killing the blacks, a very sensitive issue. The
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Congress was concerned we might be involved in that, and he assured them we
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had nothing to do with it.</p>
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<p>We had in fact formed four little mercenary armies and delivered them into
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Angola to do this dirty business for the CIA. And he lied to them about that.
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They asked if we were putting arms into the conflict, and he said no, and we
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were. They asked if we had advisors inside the country, and he said 'no, we
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had people going in to look at the situation and coming back out'. We had 24
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people sleeping inside the country, training in the use of weapons, installing
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communications systems, planning battles, and he said, we didn't have anybody
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inside the country.</p>
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<p>In summary about Angola, without U.S. intervention, 10000 people would be
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alive that were killed in the thing. The outcome might have been peaceful, or
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at least much less bloody. The MPLA was winning when we went in, and they
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went ahead and won, which was, according to our consul, the best thing for the
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country.</p>
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<p>At the end of this thing the Cubans were entrenched in Angola, seen in the
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eyes of much of the world as being the heroes that saved these people from the
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CIA and S. African forces. We had allied the U.S. literally and in the eyes
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of the world with the S. African army, and that's illegal, and it's impolitic.
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We had hired white mercenaries and eventually been identified with them. And
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that's illegal, and it's impolitic. And our lies had been visible lies. We
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were caught out on those lies. And the world saw the U.S. as liars.</p>
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<p>After it was over, you have to ask yourself, was it justified? What did the
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MPLA do after they had won? Were they lying when they said they wanted to be
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our friends? 3 weeks after we were shut down... the MPLA had Gulf oil back in
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Angola, pumping the Angolan oil from the oilfields, with U.S. gulf technicians
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protected by Cuban soldiers, protecting them from CIA mercenaries who were
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still mucking around in Northern Angola.</p>
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<p>You can't trust a communist, can you? They proceeded to buy five 737 jets
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from Boeing Aircraft in Seattle. And they brought in 52 U.S. technicians to
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install the radar systems to land and take-off those planes. They didn't buy
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[the Soviet Union's] Aeroflot.... David Rockefeller himself tours S. Africa
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and comes back and holds press conferences, in which he says that we have no
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problem doing business with the so-called radical states of Southern Africa.</p>
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<p>I left the CIA, I decided that the American people needed to know what we'd
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done in Angola, what we'd done in Vietnam. I wrote my book. I was fortunate
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- I got it out. It was a best-seller. A lot of people read it. I was able
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to take my story to the American people. Got on 60 minutes, and lots and lots
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of other shows.</p>
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<p>I testified to the Congress and then I began my education in earnest, after
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having been taught to fight communists all my life. I went to see what
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communists were all about. I went to Cuba to see if they do in fact eat
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babies for breakfast. And I found they don't. I went to Budapest, a country
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that even national geographic admits is working nicely. I went to Jamaica to
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talk to Michael Manley about his theories of social democracy.</p>
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<p>I went to Grenada and established a dialogue with Maurice Bishop and Bernard
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Coard and Phyllis Coard, to see - these were all educated people, and
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experienced people - and they had a theory, they had something they wanted to
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do, they had rationales and explanations - and I went repeatedly to hear them.
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And then of course I saw the U.S., the CIA mounting a covert action against
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them, I saw us orchestrating our plan to invade the country. 19 days before he
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was killed, I was in Grenada talking to Maurice Bishop about these things,
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these indicators, the statements in the press by Ronald Reagan, and he and I
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were both acknowledging that it was almost certain that the U.S. would invade
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Grenada in the near future.</p>
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<p>I read as many books as I could find on the subject - book after book after
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book. I've got several hundred books on the shelf over my desk on the subject
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of U.S. national security interests. And by the way, I *urge you to read*.
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In television you get capsules of news that someone else puts together what
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they want you to hear about the news. In newspapers you get what the editors
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select to put in the newspaper. If you want to know about the world and
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understand, to educate yourself, you have to get out and dig, dig up books and
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articles for yourself. Read, and find out for yourselves. As you'll see, the
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issues are very, very important.</p>
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<p>I also was able to meet the players, the people who write, the people who have
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done studies, people who are leading different situations. I went to
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Nicaragua a total of 7 times. This was a major covert action. It lasted
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longer and evolved to be bigger than what we did in Angola. It gave me a
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chance, after running something from Washington, to go to a country that was
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under attack, to talk to the leadership, to talk to the people, to look and
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see what happens when you give white phosporous or grenades or bombs or
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bullets to people, and they go inside a country, to go and talk to the people,
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who have been shot, or hit, or blown up....</p>
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<p>We're talking about 10 to 20 thousand covert actions [the CIA has performed
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since 1961]. What I found was that lots and lots of people have been killed
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in these things.... Some of them are very, very bloody.</p>
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<p>The Indonesian covert action of 1965, reported by Ralph McGehee, who was in
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that area division, and had documents on his desk, in his custody about that
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operation. He said that one of the documents concluded that this was a model
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operation that should be copied elsewhere in the world. Not only did it
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eliminate the effective communist party (Indonesian communist party), it also
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eliminated the entire segment of the population that tended to support the
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communist party - the ethnic Chinese, Indonesian Chinese. And the CIA's
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report put the number of dead at 800000 killed. And that was one covert
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action. We're talking about 1 to 3 million people killed in these things.</p>
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|
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<p>Two of these things have led us directly into bloody wars. There was a covert
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|
action against China, destabilizing China, for many, many years, with a
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|
propaganda campaign to work up a mood, a feeling in this country, of the evils
|
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|
of communist China, and attacking them, as we're doing in Nicaragua today,
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|
with an army that was being launched against them to parachute in and boat in
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and destabilize the country. And this led us directly into the Korean war.</p>
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|
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<p>U.S. intelligence officers worked over Vietnam for a total of 25 years, with
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|
greater and greater involvement, massive propaganda, deceiving the American
|
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|
people about what was happening. Panicking people in Vietnam to create
|
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|
migrations to the south so they could photograph it and show how people were
|
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|
fleeing communism. And on and on, until they got us into the Vietnam war, and
|
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|
2000000 people were killed.</p>
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|
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<p>There is a mood, a sentiment in Washington, by our leadership today, for the
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|
past 4 years, that a good communist is a dead communist. If you're killing 1
|
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|
to 3 million communists, that's great. President Reagan has gone public and
|
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|
said he would reduce the Soviet Union to a pile of ashes. The problem,
|
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|
though, is that these people killed by our national security activities are
|
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|
not communists. They're not Russians, they're not KGB. In the field we used
|
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|
to play chess with the KGB officers, and have drinks with them. It was like
|
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|
professional football players - we would knock heads on Sunday, maybe in an
|
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|
operation, and then Tuesday you're at a banquet together drinking toasts and
|
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|
talking.</p>
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|
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|
<p>The people that are dying in these things are people of the third world.
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|
That's the common denominator that you come up with. People of the third
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|
world. People that have the misfortune of being born in the Mitumba mountains
|
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|
of the Congo, in the jungles of Southeast Asia, and now in the hills of
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|
northern Nicaragua. Far more Catholics than communists, far more Buddhists
|
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|
than communists. Most of them couldn't give you an intelligent definition of
|
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|
communism, or of capitalism.</p>
|
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|
|
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|
<p>Central America has been a traditional target of U.S. dominion. If you want
|
||
|
to get an easy-read of the history of our involvement in Central America, read
|
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|
Walter LaFeber's book, "Inevitable Revolutions" . We have dominated the area
|
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|
since 1820. We've had a policy of dominion, of excluding other countries,
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|
other industrial powers from Europe, from competing with us in the area.</p>
|
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|
|
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|
<p>Just to give you an example of how complete this is, and how military this has
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|
been, between 1900 and W.W. II, we had 5000 marines in Nicaragua for a total
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|
of 28 years. We invaded the Dominican Republic 4 times. Haiti, we occupied
|
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|
it for 12 years. We put our troops into Cuba 4 times, Panama 6 times,
|
||
|
Guatemala once, plus a CIA covert action to overthrow the democratic
|
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|
government there once. Honduras, 7 times. And by the way, we put 12000
|
||
|
troops into the Soviet Union during that same period of time.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>In the 1930's there was public and international pressure about our marines in
|
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|
Nicaragua....</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>The next three leaders of Guatemala [after the CIA installed the puppet,
|
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|
Colonel Armas in a coup] died violent deaths, and amnesty international tells
|
||
|
us that the governments we've supported in power there since then, have killed
|
||
|
80000 people. You can read about that one in the book "Bitter Fruit", by
|
||
|
Kinzer and Schlesinger. Kinzer's a New York Times Journalist... or Jonathan
|
||
|
Kwitny, the Wall Street Journal reporter, his book "Endless Enemies" all
|
||
|
discuss this....</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>However, the money, the millions and millions of dollars we put into this
|
||
|
program [helping Central America] inevitably went to the rich, and not to the
|
||
|
people of the countries involved. And while we were doing this, while we were
|
||
|
trying, at least saying we were trying, to correct the problems of Central and
|
||
|
Latin America, the CIA was doing its thing, too. The CIA was in fact forming
|
||
|
the police units that are today the death squads in El Salvador. With the
|
||
|
leaders on the CIA's payroll, trained by the CIA and the United States.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>We had the 'public safety program' going throughout Central and Latin America
|
||
|
for 26 years, in which we taught them to break up subversion by interrogating
|
||
|
people. Interrogation, including torture, the way the CIA taught it. Dan
|
||
|
Mitrione, the famous exponent of these things, did 7 years in Brazil and 3 in
|
||
|
Uruguay, teaching interrogation, teaching torture. He was supposed to be the
|
||
|
master of the business, how to apply the right amount of pain, at just the
|
||
|
right times, in order to get the response you want from the individual.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>They developed a wire. They gave them crank generators, with 'U.S. AID'
|
||
|
written on the side, so the people even knew where these things came from.
|
||
|
They developed a wire that was strong enough to carry the current and fine
|
||
|
enough to fit between the teeth, so you could put one wire between the teeth
|
||
|
and the other one in or around the genitals and you could crank and submit the
|
||
|
individual to the greatest amount of pain, supposedly, that the human body can
|
||
|
register.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>Now how do you teach torture? Dan Mitrione: 'I can teach you about torture,
|
||
|
but sooner or later you'll have to get involved. You'll have to lay on your
|
||
|
hands and try it yourselves.'</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>... All they [the guinea pigs, beggars from off the streets] could do was lie
|
||
|
there and scream. And when they would collapse, they would bring in doctors
|
||
|
and shoot them up with vitamin B and rest them up for the next class. And
|
||
|
when they would die, they would mutilate the bodies and throw them out on the
|
||
|
streets, to terrify the population so they would be afraid of the police and
|
||
|
the government.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>And this is what the CIA was teaching them to do. And one of the women who
|
||
|
was in this program for 2 years - tortured in Brazil for 2 years - she
|
||
|
testified internationally when she eventually got out. She said, 'The most
|
||
|
horrible thing about it was in fact, that the people doing the torture were
|
||
|
not raving psychopaths.' She couldn't break mental contact with them the way
|
||
|
you could if they were psychopath. They were very ordinary people....</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>There's a lesson in all of this. And the lesson is that it isn't only Gestapo
|
||
|
maniacs, or KGB maniacs, that do inhuman things to other people, it's people
|
||
|
that do inhuman things to other people. And we are responsible for doing
|
||
|
these things, on a massive basis, to people of the world today. And we do it
|
||
|
in a way that gives us this plausible denial to our own consciences; we create
|
||
|
a CIA, a secret police, we give them a vast budget, and we let "them" go and
|
||
|
run these programs in our name, and we pretend like we don't know it's going
|
||
|
on, although the information is there for us to know; and we pretend like it's
|
||
|
ok because we're fighting some vague communist threat. And we're just as
|
||
|
responsible for these 1 to 3 million people we've slaughtered and for all the
|
||
|
people we've tortured and made miserable, as the Gestapo was the people that
|
||
|
they've slaughtered and killed. Genocide is genocide!</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>Now we're pouring money into El Salvador. A billion dollars or so. And it's
|
||
|
a documented fact that the... 14 families there that own 60% of the country
|
||
|
are taking out between 2 to 5 billion dollars - it's called de-capitalization
|
||
|
- and putting it in banks in Miami and Switzerland. Mort Halperin, testifying
|
||
|
to a committee of the Congress, he suggested we could simplify the whole thing
|
||
|
politically just by investing our money directly in the Miami banks in their
|
||
|
names and just stay out of El Salvador altogether. And the people would be
|
||
|
better off.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>Nicaragua. What's happening in Nicaragua today is covert action. It's a
|
||
|
classic de-stabilization program. In November 16, 1981, President Reagan
|
||
|
allocated 19 million dollars to form an army, a force of contras, they're
|
||
|
called, ex-Somoza national guards, the monsters who were doing the torture and
|
||
|
terror in Nicaragua that made the Nicaraguan people rise up and throw out the
|
||
|
dictator, and throw out the guard. We went back to create an army of these
|
||
|
people. We are killing, and killing, and terrorizing people. Not only in
|
||
|
Nicaragua but the Congress has leaked to the press - reported in the New York
|
||
|
Times, that there are 50 covert actions going around the world today, CIA
|
||
|
covert actions going on around the world today.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>You have to be asking yourself, why are we destabilizing 50 corners of the
|
||
|
troubled world? Why are we about to go to war in Nicaragua, the Central
|
||
|
American war? It is the function, I suggest, of the CIA, with its 50
|
||
|
de-stabilization programs going around the world today, to keep the world
|
||
|
unstable, and to propagandize the American people to hate, so we will let the
|
||
|
establishment spend any amount of money on arms....</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>The Victor Marchetti ruling of the Supreme Court gave the government the right
|
||
|
to prepublication censorship of books. They challenged 360 items in his 360
|
||
|
page book. He fought it in court, and eventually they deleted some 60 odd
|
||
|
items in his book.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>The Frank Snepp ruling of the Supreme Court gave the government the right to
|
||
|
sue a government employee for damages. If s/he writes an unauthorized account
|
||
|
of the government - which means the people who are involved in corruption in
|
||
|
the government, who see it, who witness it, like Frank Snepp did, like I did -
|
||
|
if they try to go public they can now be punished in civil court. The
|
||
|
government took $90000 away from Frank Snepp, his profits from his book, and
|
||
|
they've seized the profits from my own book....</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>[Reagan passed] the Intelligence Identities Protection act, which makes it a
|
||
|
felony to write articles revealing the identities of secret agents or to write
|
||
|
about their activities in a way that would reveal their identities. Now, what
|
||
|
does this mean? In a debate in Congress - this is very controversial - the
|
||
|
supporters of this bill made it clear.... If agents Smith and Jones came on
|
||
|
this campus, in an MK-ultra-type experiment, and blew your fiance's head away
|
||
|
with LSD, it would now be a felony to publish an article in your local paper
|
||
|
saying, 'watch out for these 2 turkeys, they're federal agents and they blew
|
||
|
my loved one's head away with LSD'. It would not be a felony what they had
|
||
|
done because that's national security and none of them were ever punished for
|
||
|
those activities.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>Efforts to muzzle government employees. President Reagan has been banging
|
||
|
away at this one ever since. Proposing that every government employee, for
|
||
|
the rest of his or her life, would have to submit anything they wrote to 6
|
||
|
committees of the government for censorship, for the rest of their lives. To
|
||
|
keep the scandals from leaking out... to keep the American people from
|
||
|
knowing what the government is really doing.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>Then it starts getting heavy. The 'Pre-emptive Strikes' bill. President
|
||
|
Reagan, working through the Secretary of State Shultz... almost 2 years ago,
|
||
|
submitted the bill that would provide them with the authority to strike at
|
||
|
terrorists before terrorists can do their terrorism. But this bill...
|
||
|
provides that they would be able to do this in "this" country as well as
|
||
|
overseas. It provides that the secretary of state would put together a list
|
||
|
of people that he considers to be terrorist, or terrorist supporters, or
|
||
|
terrorist sympathizers. And if your name, or your organization, is put on
|
||
|
this list, they could kick down your door and haul you away, or kill you,
|
||
|
without any due process of the law and search warrants and trial by jury, and
|
||
|
all of that, with impunity.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>Now, there was a tremendous outcry on the part of jurists. The New York Times
|
||
|
columns and other newspapers saying, 'this is no different from Hitler's
|
||
|
"night and fog" program', where the government had the authority to haul
|
||
|
people off at night. And they did so by the thousands. And President Reagan
|
||
|
and Secretary Shultz have persisted.... Shultz has said, 'Yes, we will have
|
||
|
to take action on the basis of information that would never stand up in a
|
||
|
court. And yes, innocent people will have to be killed in the process. But,
|
||
|
we must have this law because of the threat of international terrorism'.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>Think a minute. What is 'the threat of international terrorism'? These
|
||
|
things catch a lot of attention. But how many Americans died in terrorist
|
||
|
actions last year? According to Secretary Shultz, 79. Now, obviously that's
|
||
|
terrible but we killed 55000 people on our highways with drunken driving; we
|
||
|
kill 2500 people in far nastier, bloodier, mutilating, gang-raping ways in
|
||
|
Nicaragua last year alone ourselves. Obviously 79 peoples' death is not
|
||
|
enough reason to take away the protection of American citizens, of due process
|
||
|
of the law.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>But they're pressing for this. The special actions teams that will do the
|
||
|
pre-emptive striking have already been created, and trained in the defense
|
||
|
department.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>They're building detention centers. There were 8 kept as mothballs under the
|
||
|
McCarran act after World War II, to detain aliens and dissidents in the next
|
||
|
war, as was done in the next war, as was done with the Japanese people during
|
||
|
World War II. They're building 10 more, and army camps, and the... executive
|
||
|
memos about these things say it's for aliens and dissidents in the next
|
||
|
national emergency....</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, headed by Loius Guiffrida, a
|
||
|
friend of Ed Meese's.... He's going about the country lobbying and demanding
|
||
|
that he be given authority, in the times of national emergency, to declare
|
||
|
martial law, and establish a curfew, and gun down people who violate the
|
||
|
curfew... in the United States.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>And then there's Ed Meese, as I said. The highest law enforcement officer in
|
||
|
the land, President Reagan's closest friend, going around telling us that the
|
||
|
constitution never did guarantee freedom of speech and press, and due process
|
||
|
of the law, and assembly.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>What they are planning for this society, and this is why they're determined to
|
||
|
take us into a war if we'll permit it... is the Reagan revolution.... So he's
|
||
|
getting himself some laws so when he puts in the troops in Nicaragua, he can
|
||
|
take charge of the American people, and put people in jail, and kick in their
|
||
|
doors, and kill them if they don't like what he's doing....</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>The question is, 'Are we going to permit our leaders to take away our freedoms
|
||
|
because they have a charming smile and they were nice movie stars one day, or
|
||
|
are we going to stand up and fight, and insist on our freedoms?' It's up to
|
||
|
us - you and I can watch this history play in the next year and 2 and 3 years.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>========================================================================
|
||
|
"CIA Covert Operations in Central America, CIA Manipulation of the
|
||
|
Press, CIA Experimentation on the U.S. Public"</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>I just got my latest book back from the CIA censors. If I had not submitted
|
||
|
it to them, I would have gone to jail, without trial - blow off juries and all
|
||
|
that sort of thing - for having violated our censorship laws....</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>In that job [Angola] I sat on a sub-committee of the NSC, so I was like a
|
||
|
chief of staff, with the GS-18s (like 3-star generals) Henry Kissinger, Bill
|
||
|
Colby (the CIA director), the GS-18s and the CIA, making important decisions
|
||
|
and my job was to put it all together and make it happen and run it, an
|
||
|
interesting place from which to watch a covert action being done....</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>When the world's gotten blocked up before, like a monopoly game where
|
||
|
everything's owned and nobody can make any progress, the way they erased the
|
||
|
board and started over has been to have big world wars, and erase countries
|
||
|
and bomb cities and bomb banks and then start from scratch again. This is not
|
||
|
an option to us now because of all these 52000 nuclear weapons....</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>The United States CIA is running 50 covert actions, destabilizing further
|
||
|
almost one third of the countries in the world today....</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>By the way, everything I'm sharing with you tonight is in the public record.
|
||
|
The 50 covert actions - these are secret, but that has been leaked to us by
|
||
|
members of the oversight committee of the Congress. I urge you not to take my
|
||
|
word for anything. I'm going to stand here and tell you and give you examples
|
||
|
of how our leaders lie. Obviously I could be lying. The only way you can
|
||
|
figure it out for yourself is to educate yourselves. The French have a saying,
|
||
|
'them that don't do politics will be done'. If you don't fill your mind
|
||
|
eagerly with the truth, dig it out from the records, go and see for yourself,
|
||
|
then your mind remains blank and your adrenaline pumps, and you can be
|
||
|
mobilized and excited to do things that are not in your interest to do....</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>Nicaragua is not the biggest covert action, it is the most famous one.
|
||
|
Afghanistan is, we spent several hundred million dollars in Afghanistan.
|
||
|
We've spent somewhat less than that, but close, in Nicaragua....</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>[When the U.S. doesn't like a government], they send the CIA in, with its
|
||
|
resources and activists, hiring people, hiring agents, to tear apart the
|
||
|
social and economic fabric of the country, as a technique for putting pressure
|
||
|
on the government, hoping that they can make the government come to the U.S.'s
|
||
|
terms, or the government will collapse altogether and they can engineer a coup
|
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d'etat, and have the thing wind up with their own choice of people in power.</p>
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<p>Now ripping apart the economic and social fabric of course is fairly
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textbook-ish. What we're talking about is going in and deliberately creating
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conditions where the farmer can't get his produce to market, where children
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can't go to school, where women are terrified inside their homes as well as
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outside their homes, where government administration and programs grind to a
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complete halt, where the hospitals are treating wounded people instead of sick
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people, where international capital is scared away and the country goes
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bankrupt. If you ask the state department today what is their official
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explanation of the purpose of the Contras, they say it's to attack economic
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targets, meaning, break up the economy of the country. Of course, they're
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attacking a lot more.</p>
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<p>To destabilize Nicaragua beginning in 1981, we began funding this force of
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Somoza's ex-national guardsmen, calling them the contras (the
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counter-revolutionaries). We created this force, it did not exist until we
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allocated money. We've armed them, put uniforms on their backs, boots on
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their feet, given them camps in Honduras to live in, medical supplies,
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doctors, training, leadership, direction, as we've sent them in to
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de-stabilize Nicaragua. Under our direction they have systematically been
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blowing up graineries, saw mills, bridges, government offices, schools, health
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centers. They ambush trucks so the produce can't get to market. They raid
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farms and villages. The farmer has to carry a gun while he tries to plow, if
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he can plow at all.</p>
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<p>If you want one example of hard proof of the CIA's involvement in this, and
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their approach to it, dig up 'The Sabotage Manual', that they were circulating
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throughout Nicaragua, a comic-book type of a paper, with visual explanations
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of what you can do to bring a society to a halt, how you can gum up
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typewriters, what you can pour in a gas tank to burn up engines, what you can
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stuff in a sewage to stop up the sewage so it won't work, things you can do to
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make a society simply cease to function.</p>
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<p>Systematically, the contras have been assassinating religious workers,
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teachers, health workers, elected officials, government administrators. You
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remember the assassination manual? that surfaced in 1984. It caused such a
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stir that President Reagan had to address it himself in the presidential
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debates with Walter Mondale. They use terror. This is a technique that
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they're using to traumatize the society so that it can't function.</p>
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<p>I don't mean to abuse you with verbal violence, but you have to understand
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what your government and its agents are doing. They go into villages, they
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haul out families. With the children forced to watch they castrate the
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father, they peel the skin off his face, they put a grenade in his mouth and
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pull the pin. With the children forced to watch they gang-rape the mother,
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and slash her breasts off. And sometimes for variety, they make the parents
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watch while they do these things to the children.</p>
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<p>This is nobody's propaganda. There have been over 100000 American witnesses
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for peace who have gone down there and they have filmed and photographed and
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witnessed these atrocities immediately after they've happened, and documented
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13000 people killed this way, mostly women and children. These are the
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activities done by these contras. The contras are the people president Reagan
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calls 'freedom fighters'. He says they're the moral equivalent of our
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founding fathers. And the whole world gasps at this confession of his family
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traditions.</p>
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<p>Read "Contra Terror" by Reed Brody former assistant Attorney General of New
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York State. Read "The Contras" by Dieter Eich. Read "With the Contras" by
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Christopher Dickey. This is a main-line journalist, down there on a grant
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|
with the Council on Foreign Relations, a slightly to the right of the middle
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of the road organization. He writes a book that sets a pox on both your
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houses, and then he accounts about going in on patrol with the contras, and
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describes their activities. Read "Witness for Peace: What We have Seen and
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Heard" . Read the Lawyer's Commission on Human Rights. Read "The Violations
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of War on Both Sides" by the Americas Watch. And there are many, many more
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|
documentations of details, of names, of the incidents that have happened.</p>
|
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|
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<p>Part of a de-stabilization is propaganda, to dis-credit the targeted
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|
government. This one actually began under Jimmy Carter. He authorized the
|
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CIA to go in and try to make the Sandinistas look to be evil. So in 1979
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[when] they came in to power, immediately we were trying to cast them as
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totalitarian, evil, threatening Marxists. While they abolished the death
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sentence, while they released 8000 national guardsmen that they had in their
|
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custody that they could have kept in prison, they said 'no. Unless we have
|
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|
evidence of individual crimes, we're not going to hold someone in prison just
|
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because they were associated with the former administration.' While they set
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out to launch a literacy campaign to teach the people to read and write, which
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|
is something that the dictator Somoza, and us supporting him, had never
|
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bothered to get around to doing. While they set out to build 2500 clinics to
|
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give the country something resembling a public health policy, and access to
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medicines, we began to label them as totalitarian dictators, and to attack
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them in the press, and to work with this newspaper 'La Prensa', which - it's
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|
finally come out and been admitted, in Washington - the U.S. government is
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funding: a propaganda arm.</p>
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<p>[Reagan and the State dept. have] been claiming they're building a war machine
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that threatens the stability of Central America. Now the truth is, this
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small, poor country has been attacked by the world's richest country under
|
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|
conditions of war, for the last 5 years. Us and our army - the death they
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have sustained, the action they have suffered - it makes it a larger war
|
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|
proportionally than the Vietnam war was to the U.S. In addition to the contra
|
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|
activities, we've had U.S. Navy ships supervising the mining of harbors, we've
|
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|
sent planes in and bombed the capital, we've had U.S. military planes flying
|
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|
wing-tip to wing-tip over the country, photographing it, aerial
|
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|
reconnaissance. They don't have any missiles or jets they can send up to
|
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|
chase us off. "We" are at war with "them" . The have not retaliated yet with
|
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|
any kind of war action against us, but we do not give them credit with having
|
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|
the right to defend themselves. So we claim that the force they built up,
|
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|
which is obviously purely defensive, is an aggressive force that threatens the
|
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|
stability of all of Central America.</p>
|
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|
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|
<p>We claim the justification for this is the arms that are flowing from
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|
Nicaragua to El Salvador, and yet in 5 years of this activity, President
|
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|
Reagan hasn't been able to show the world one shred of evidence of any arms
|
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|
flowing from Nicaragua into El Salvador.</p>
|
||
|
|
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|
<p>We launched a campaign to discredit their elections. International observer
|
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|
teams said these were the fairest elections they have witnessed in Central
|
||
|
America in many years. We said they were fraudulent, they were rigged,
|
||
|
because it was a totalitarian system. Instead we said, the elections that
|
||
|
were held in El Salvador were models of democracy to be copied elsewhere in
|
||
|
the world. And then the truth came out about that one. And we learned that
|
||
|
the CIA had spent 2.2 million dollars to make sure that their choice of
|
||
|
candidates - Duarte - would win. They did everything, we're told, by one of
|
||
|
their spokesmen, indirectly, but stuff the ballot boxes....</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>I'll make a footnote that when I speak out, he [Senator Jesse Helms] calls me
|
||
|
a traitor, but when something happens he doesn't like, he doesn't hesitate to
|
||
|
go public and reveal the secrets and embarrass the U.S.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>We claim the Sandinistas are smuggling drugs as a technique to finance their
|
||
|
revolution. This doesn't make sense. We're at war with them, we're dying to
|
||
|
catch them getting arms from the Soviet Union, flying things back and forth to
|
||
|
Cuba. We have airplanes and picket ships watching everything that flies out
|
||
|
of that country, and into it. How are they going to have a steady flow of
|
||
|
drug-smuggling planes into the U.S.? Not likely! However, there are
|
||
|
Nicaraguans, on these bases in Honduras, that have planes flying into CIA
|
||
|
training camps in Florida, Alabama, Louisiana, several times a week.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p> Now, obviously i'm not going to stand in front of you and say that the CIA
|
||
|
might be involved in drug trafficking, am I? READ THE BOOK. Read "The
|
||
|
Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia" . For 20 years the CIA was helping the
|
||
|
Kuomintang to finance itself and then to get rich, smuggling heroin. When we
|
||
|
took over from the French in 1954 their intelligence service had been
|
||
|
financing itself by smuggling the heroin out of Laos. We replaced them - we
|
||
|
put Air America, the CIA subsidiary - it would fly in with crates marked
|
||
|
humanitarian aid, which were arms, and it would fly back out with heroin. And
|
||
|
the first target, market, of this heroin was the U.S. GI's in Vietnam. If
|
||
|
anybody in Nicaragua is smuggling drugs, it's the contras. Now i've been
|
||
|
saying that since the state department started waving this red herring around
|
||
|
a couple of years ago, and the other day you notice President Reagan said that
|
||
|
the Nicaraguans, the Sandinistas, were smuggling drugs, and the DEA said, 'it
|
||
|
ain't true, the contras are smuggling drugs'.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>We claim the Sandinistas are responsible for the terrorism that's happening
|
||
|
anywhere in the world. 'The country club of terrorism' we call it. There's an
|
||
|
incident in Rome, and Ed Meese goes on television and says, 'that country club
|
||
|
in Nicaragua is training terrorists'. We blame the Sandinistas for the misery
|
||
|
that exists in Nicaragua today, and there is misery, because the world's
|
||
|
richest nation has set out to create conditions of misery, and obviously we're
|
||
|
bound to have some effect. The misery is not the fault of the Sandinistas,
|
||
|
it's the result of our destabilization program. And despite that, and despite
|
||
|
some grumbling in the country, the Sandinistas in their elections got a much
|
||
|
higher percentage of the vote than President Reagan did, who's supposed to be
|
||
|
so popular in this country. And all observers are saying that people are
|
||
|
still hanging together, with the Sandinistas.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>Now it gets tricky. We're saying that the justification for more aid,
|
||
|
possibly for an invasion of the country - and mind you, president Reagan has
|
||
|
begun to talk about this, and the Secretary of Defense Weinberger began to say
|
||
|
that it's inevitable - we claim that the justification is that the Soviet
|
||
|
Union now has invested 500 million dollars in arms in military to make it its
|
||
|
big client state, the Soviet bastion in this hemisphere. And that's true.
|
||
|
They do have a lot of arms in there now. But the question is, how did they
|
||
|
get invited in? You have to ask yourself, what's the purpose of this
|
||
|
destabilization program? For this I direct you back to the Newsweek article
|
||
|
in Sept. 1981, where they announce the fact that the CIA was beginning to put
|
||
|
together this force of Somoza's ex-guard. Newsweek described it as 'the only
|
||
|
truly evil, totally unacceptable factor in the Nicaraguan equation'. They
|
||
|
noted that neither the white house nor the CIA pretended it ever could have a
|
||
|
chance of winning. So then they asked, rhetorically, 'what's the point?' and
|
||
|
they concluded that the point is that by attacking the country, you can force
|
||
|
the Sandinistas into a more radical position, from which you have more
|
||
|
ammunition to attack them.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>And that's what we've accomplished now. They've had to get Soviet aid to
|
||
|
defend themselves from the attack from the world's richest country, and now we
|
||
|
can stand up to the American people and say, 'see? they have all the Soviet
|
||
|
aid'. Make no doubt of it, it's the game plan of the Reagan Administration to
|
||
|
have a war in Nicaragua, they have been working on this since 1981, they have
|
||
|
been stopped by the will of the American people so far, but they're working
|
||
|
harder than ever to engineer their war there.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>Now, CIA destabilizations are nothing new, they didn't begin with Nicaragua.
|
||
|
We've done it before, once or twice. Like the Church committee, investigating
|
||
|
CIA covert action in 1975, found that we had run several hundred a year, and
|
||
|
we'd been in the business of running covert actions, the CIA has, for 4
|
||
|
decades. You're talking about 10 to 20 thousand covert actions.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>CIA apologists leap up and say, 'well, most of these things are not so
|
||
|
bloody'. And that's true. You're giving a politician some money so he'll
|
||
|
throw his party in this direction or that one, or make false speeches on your
|
||
|
behalf, or something like that. It may be non-violent, but it's still illegal
|
||
|
intervention in other countries' affairs, raising the question of whether or
|
||
|
not we are going to have a world in which law, rules of behaviour, are
|
||
|
respected, or is it going to be a world of bullies, where the strongest can
|
||
|
violate and brutalize the weakest, and ignore the laws?</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>But many of these things are very bloody indeed, and we know a lot about a lot
|
||
|
of them. Investigations by the Congress, testimony by CIA directors,
|
||
|
testimony by CIA case officers, books written by CIA case officers, documents
|
||
|
gotten out of the government under the freedom of information act, books that
|
||
|
are written by by pulitzer-prize-winning journalists who've documented their
|
||
|
cases. And you can go and read from these things, classic CIA operations that
|
||
|
we know about, some of them very bloody indeed. Guatemala 1954, Brazil,
|
||
|
Guyana, Chile, The Congo, Iran, Panama, Peru, Bolivia, Equador, Uruguay - the
|
||
|
CIA organized the overthrow of constitutional democracies. Read the book
|
||
|
"Covert Action: 35 years of Deception" by the journalist Godswood. Remember
|
||
|
the Henry Kissinger quote before the Congress when he was being grilled to
|
||
|
explain what they had done to overthrow the democratic government in Chile, in
|
||
|
which the President, Salvador Allende had been killed. And he said, 'The
|
||
|
issues are much too important for the Chilean voters to be left to decide for
|
||
|
themselves'.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>We had covert actions against China, very much like what we're doing against
|
||
|
Nicaragua today, that led us directly into the Korean war, where we fought
|
||
|
China in Korea. We had a long covert action in Vietnam, very much like the
|
||
|
one that we're running in Nicaragua today, that tracked us directly into the
|
||
|
Vietnam war. Read the book, "The Hidden History of the Korean War" by I. F.
|
||
|
Stone. Read "Deadly Deceits" by Ralph McGehee for the Vietnam story. In
|
||
|
Thailand, the Congo, Laos, Vietnam, Taiwan, and Honduras, the CIA put together
|
||
|
large standing armies. In Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, the Congo, Iran,
|
||
|
Nicaragua, and Sri Lanca, the CIA armed and encouraged ethnic minorities to
|
||
|
rise up and fight. The first thing we began doing in Nicaragua, 1981 was to
|
||
|
fund an element of the Miskito indians, to give them money and training and
|
||
|
arms, so they could rise up and fight against the government in Managua. In
|
||
|
El Salvador, Vietnam, Korea, Iran, Uganda and the Congo, the CIA helped form
|
||
|
and train the death squads.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>In El Salvador specifically, under the 'Alliance for Progress' in the early
|
||
|
1960's, the CIA helped put together the treasury police. These are the people
|
||
|
that haul people out at night today, and run trucks over their heads. These
|
||
|
are the people that the Catholic church tells us, has killed something over
|
||
|
50000 civilians in the last 5 years. And we have testimony before our
|
||
|
Congress that as late as 1982, leaders of the treasury police were still on
|
||
|
the CIA payroll.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>Then you have the 'Public Safety Program'. I have to take just a minute on
|
||
|
this one because it's a very important principle involved that we must
|
||
|
understand, if we're to understand ourselves and the world that we live in.
|
||
|
In this one, the CIA was working with police forces throughout Latin America
|
||
|
for about 26 years, teaching them how to wrap up subversive networks by
|
||
|
capturing someone and interrogating them, torturing them, and then getting
|
||
|
names and arresting the others and going from there. Now, this was such a
|
||
|
brutal and such a bloody operation, that Amnesty International began to
|
||
|
complain and publish reports. Then there were United Nations hearings. Then
|
||
|
eventually our Congress was forced to yield to international pressure and
|
||
|
investigate it, and they found the horror that was being done, and by law they
|
||
|
forced it to stop. You can read these reports - the Amnesty International
|
||
|
findings, and our own Congressional hearings.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>These things kill people. 800000 in Indonesia alone according to CIA's
|
||
|
estimate, 12000 in Nicaragua, 10000 in the Angolan operation that I was
|
||
|
sitting in Washington, managing the task force. They add up. We'll never
|
||
|
know how many people have been killed in them. Obviously a lot. Obviously at
|
||
|
least a million. 800000 in Indonesia alone. Undoubtedly the minimum figure
|
||
|
has to be 3 million. Then you add in a million people killed in Korea, 2
|
||
|
million people killed in the Vietnam war, and you're obviously getting into
|
||
|
gross millions of people....</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>We do not parachute teams into the Soviet Union to haul families out at night
|
||
|
and castrate the father with the children watching, because they have the
|
||
|
Bomb, and a big army, and they would parachute teams right back into our
|
||
|
country and do the same thing to us - they're not scared of us. For slightly
|
||
|
different reasons, but also obvious reasons, we don't do these things in
|
||
|
England, or France, or Germany, or Sweden, or Italy, or Japan. What comes out
|
||
|
at you immediately is that these 1 to 3 million direct victims, the dead, and
|
||
|
in these other wars, they're people of the third world, they're citizens of
|
||
|
countries that are too small to defend them from United States brutality and
|
||
|
aggression. They're people of the Mitumba mountains of the Congo, and the
|
||
|
jungles of Southeast Asia, and now the hills of northern Nicaragua - 12000
|
||
|
peasants. We have not killed KGB or Russian army advisors in Nicaragua. We
|
||
|
are not killing Cuban advisors. We're not killing very many Sandinistas. The
|
||
|
12000 that we have killed in Nicaragua are peasants, who have the misfortune
|
||
|
of living in a CIA's chosen battlefield. Mostly women and children.
|
||
|
Communists? Far, far, far more Catholics than anything else.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>Now case officers that do these things in places in Nicaragua, they do not
|
||
|
come back to the U.S. and click their heels and suddenly become responsible
|
||
|
citizens. They see themselves - they have been functioning above the laws, of
|
||
|
God, and the laws of man - they've come back to this country, and they've
|
||
|
continued their operations as far as they can get by with them. And we have
|
||
|
abundant documentation of that as well. The MH-Chaos program, exposed in the
|
||
|
late 60's and shut down, re-activated by President Reagan to a degree - we
|
||
|
don't have the details yet - in which they were spending a billion dollars to
|
||
|
manipulate U.S. student, and labor organizations. The MK-ultra program. For
|
||
|
20 years, working through over 200 medical schools and mental hospitals,
|
||
|
including Harvard Medical School, Georgetown, some of the biggest places we've
|
||
|
got, to experiment on American citizens with disease, and drugs.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p> They dragged a barge through San Francisco Bay, leaking a virus, to measure
|
||
|
this technique for crippling a city. They launched a whooping cough epidemic
|
||
|
in a Long Island suburb, to see what it would do to the community if all the
|
||
|
kids had whooping cough. Tough shit about the 2 or 3 with weak constitutions
|
||
|
that might die in the process. They put light bulbs in the subways in
|
||
|
Manhattan, that would create vertigo - make people have double vision, so you
|
||
|
couldn't see straight - and hid cameras in the walls - to see what would
|
||
|
happen at rush hour when the trains are zipping past - if everybody has
|
||
|
vertigo and they can't see straight and they're bumping into each other.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>Colonel White - oh yes, and I can't not mention the disease experimentations -
|
||
|
the use of deadly diseases. We launched - when we were destabilizing Cuba for
|
||
|
7 years - we launched the swine fever epidemic, in the hog population, trying
|
||
|
to kill out all of the pigs - a virus. We experimented in Haiti on the people
|
||
|
with viruses.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>I'm not saying, I do not have the slightest shred of evidence, that there is
|
||
|
any truth or indication to the rumor that the CIA and its experimentations
|
||
|
were responsible for AIDS. But we do have it documented that the CIA has been
|
||
|
experimenting on people, with viruses. And now we have some deadly, killer
|
||
|
viruses running around in society. And it has to make you wonder, and it has
|
||
|
to make you worry.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>Colonel White wrote from retirement - he was the man who was in charge of this
|
||
|
macabre program - he wrote, 'I toiled whole-heartedly in the vineyards because
|
||
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it was fun, fun fun. Where else could a red-blooded American boy lie, kill,
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cheat, steal, rape and pillage with the blessings of the all highest?' Now
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that program, the MK-ultra program, was eventually exposed by the press in
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1972, investigated by the Congress, and shut down by the Congress. You can
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dig up the Congressional record and read it for yourself.</p>
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<p>There's one book called 'In Search of the Manchurian Candidate'. It's written
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by John Marks, based on 14000 documents gotten out of the government under
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the Freedom of Information Act. Read for yourselves. The thing was shut down
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but not one CIA case officer who was involved was in any way punished. Not
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one case officer involved in these experimentations on the American public,
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lost a single paycheck for what they had done.</p>
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<p>The Church committee found that the CIA had co-opted several hundred
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journalists, including some of the biggest names in the business, to pump its
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propaganda stories into our media, to teach us to hate Fidel Castro, and Ho
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Chi Minh, and the Chinese, and whomever. The latest flap or scandal we had
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about that was a year and a half ago. Leslie Gelb, the heavyweight with the
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New York Times, was exposed for having been working covertly with the CIA in
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1978 to recruit journalists in Europe, who would introduce stories, print
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stories that would create sympathy for the neutron bomb.</p>
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<p>The Church committee found that they had published over 1000 books, paying
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someone to write a book, the CIA puts its propaganda lines in it, the
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professor or the scholar gets credit for the book and gets the royalties. The
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latest flap we had about that was last year. A professor at Harvard was
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exposed for accepting 105000 dollars from the CIA to write a book about the
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Middle East. Several thousand professors and graduate students co-opted by
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the CIA to run its operations on campusses and build files on students.</p>
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<p>And then we have evidence - now, which has been hard to collect in the past
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but we knew it was happening - of CIA agents participating, trying to
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manipulate, our elections. FDN, Contra commanders, traveling this country on
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CIA plane tickets, going on television and pin-pointing a Congressional and
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saying, 'That man is soft on Communism. That man is a Sandinista lover.' A
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CIA agent going on television, trying to manipulate our elections.</p>
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<p>All of this, to keep America safe for freedom and democracy.</p>
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<p>In Nicaragua the objective is to stop the Cuban and Soviet take-over, we say.
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Another big operation in which we said the same thing was Angola, 1975, my
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little war. We were saying exactly the same thing - Cubans and Soviets.</p>
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<p>Now I will not going into great detail about this one tonight because I wrote
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a book about it, I detailed it. And you can get a copy of that book and read
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it for yourselves. I have to urge you, however - please do not rush out and
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buy a copy of that book because the CIA sued me. All of my profits go to the
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CIA, so if you buy a copy of the book you'll be donating 65 cents to the CIA.
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So check it out from your library!</p>
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<p>If you have to buy a copy, well buy one copy and share it with all your
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friends. If your bookstore is doing real well and you want to just sort of
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put a copy down in your belt...</p>
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<p>I don't know what the solution is when a society gets into censorship,
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government censorship, but that's what we're in now. Do the rules change? I
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just got my book back, my latest book back from the CIA censors. If I had not
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submitted it to them, I would have gone to jail, without trial - blow off
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juries and all that sort of thing - for having violated our censorship
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laws....</p>
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<p>So now we have the CIA running the operation in Nicaragua, lying to us,
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running 50 covert actions, and gearing us up for our next war, the Central
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American war. Let there be no doubt about it, President Reagan has a fixation
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on Nicaragua. He came into office saying that we shouldn't be afraid of war,
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saying we have to face and erase the scars of the Vietnam war. He said in
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1983, 'We will do whatever is necessary to reverse the situation in
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Nicaragua', meaning get rid of the Sandinistas. Admiral LaRocque, at the
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Center for Defense Information in Washington, says this is the most
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elaborately prepared invasion that the U.S. has ever done. At least that he's
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witnessed in his 40 years of association with our military.</p>
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<p>We have rehearsed the invasion of Nicaragua in operations Big Pine I, Big Pine
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II, Ocean Venture, Grenedara, Big Pine III. We have troops right now in
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Honduras preparing. We've built 12 bases, including 8 airstrips. Obviously
|
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|
we don't need 8 airstrips in Honduras for any purpose, except to support the
|
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|
invasion of Nicaragua. We've built radar stations around, to survey and
|
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|
watch. Some of these ventures have been huge ones. Hundreds of airplanes,
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30000 troops, rehearsing the invasion of Nicaragua.</p>
|
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<p>And of course, Americans are being given this negative view of these evil
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|
Communist dictators in Managua, just 2 days' drive from Harlingen, Texas.
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|
(They drive faster than I do by the way). I saw an ad on TV just two days ago
|
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|
in which they said that it was just 2 hours from Managua to Texas. All of
|
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|
this getting us ready for the invasion of Nicaragua, for our next war.</p>
|
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<p>Most of the people - 75% of the people - are polled as being against this
|
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|
action. However, President Eisenhower said, 'The people of the world
|
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|
genuinely want peace. Someday the leadership of the world are going to have
|
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|
to give in and give it to them'. But to date, the leaders never have, they've
|
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|
always been able to outwit the people, us, and get us into the wars when
|
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|
they've chosen to do so.</p>
|
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|
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<p>People ask, how is this possible. I get this all the time.... Americans
|
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|
*are* decent people. They *are* nice people. And they're insulated in the
|
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|
worlds that they live in, and they don't understand and we don't read our
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|
history. History is the history of war. Of leaders of countries finding
|
||
|
reasons and rationales to send the young men off to fight.</p>
|
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<p>In our country we talk about peace. But look at our own record. We have over
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|
200 incidents in which we put our troops into other countries to force them to
|
||
|
our will. Now we're being prepared to hate the Sandinistas. The leaders are
|
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|
doing exactly what they have done time and again throughout history. In the
|
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|
past we were taught to hate and fight the Seminole Indians, after the leaders
|
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|
decided to annex Florida. To hate and fight the Cherokee Indians after they
|
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found gold in Georgia. To hate and fight Mexico twice. We annexed Texas, New
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Mexico, Arizona, part of Colorado, and California.</p>
|
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<p>In each of these wars the leaders have worked to organize, to orchestrate
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public opinion. And then when they got people worked up, they had a trigger
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that would flash, that would make people angry enough that we could go in and
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do....</p>
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<p>We have a feeling that the Vietnam war was the first one in which the people
|
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|
resisted. But once again, we haven't read our history. Kate Richards-O'Hare.
|
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|
In 1915, she said about WW I, 'The Women of the U.S. are nothing but
|
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|
brutesalles, producing sons to be put in the army, to be made into
|
||
|
fertilizer'. She was jailed for 5 years for anti-war talk.</p>
|
||
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|
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<p>The lessons of the Vietnam war for the American people is that it was a tragic
|
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|
mistake.... 58000 of our own young people were killed, 2 million Vietnamese
|
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|
were killed. We withdrew, and our position wound up actually stronger in the
|
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|
Pacific Basin.</p>
|
||
|
|
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|
<p>You look around this society today to see if there's any evidence of our
|
||
|
preparations for war, and it hits you in the face....</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>'Join the Army. Be all that you can be'. Now if there was truth in
|
||
|
advertising, obviously those commercials would show a few seconds of young men
|
||
|
with their legs blown off at the knees, young men with their intestines
|
||
|
wrapped around their necks because that's what war is really all about.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>If there was honesty on the part of the army and the government, they would
|
||
|
tell about the Vietnam veterans. More of whom died violent deaths from
|
||
|
suicide after they came back from Vietnam then died in the fighting itself.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>Then you have President Reagan.... He talks about the glory of war, but you
|
||
|
have to ask yourself, where was he when wars were being fought that he was
|
||
|
young enough to fight in them? World War II, and the Korean war. Where he
|
||
|
was was in Hollywood, making films, where the blood was catsup, and you could
|
||
|
wash it off and go out to dinner afterwards....</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>Where was Gordon Liddy when he was young enough to go and fight in a war? He
|
||
|
was hiding out in the U.S. running sloppy, illegal, un-professional breaking
|
||
|
and entering operations. Now you'll forgive my egotism, at that time I was
|
||
|
running professional breaking and entering operations....</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>What about Rambo himself? Sylvester Stallone. Where was Sylvester Stallone
|
||
|
during the Vietnam war? He got a draft deferment for a physical disability,
|
||
|
and taught physical education in a girls' school in Switzerland during the
|
||
|
war.</p>
|
||
|
|
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|
<p>Getting back to President Reagan. He really did say that 'you can always call
|
||
|
cruise missiles back'.... Now, you can call back a B-52, and you can call back
|
||
|
a submarine, but a cruise missile is different.... When it lands, it goes
|
||
|
boom ! And I would prefer that the man with the finger on the button could
|
||
|
understand the difference. This is the man that calls the MX a peace-maker.
|
||
|
This is the man who's gone on television and told us that nuclear war could be
|
||
|
winnable. This is the man who's gone on television and proposed that we might
|
||
|
want to drop demonstration [atom] bombs in Europe to show people that we're
|
||
|
serious people. This is the man who likens the Contras to the moral
|
||
|
equivalents of our own founding fathers. This is the man who says South
|
||
|
Africa is making progress on racial equality. This is the man who says that
|
||
|
the Sandinistas are hunting down and hounding and persecuting Jews in
|
||
|
Nicaragua. And the Jewish leaders go on TV the next day in this country and
|
||
|
say there are 5 Jewish families in Nicaragua, and they're not having any
|
||
|
problems at all. This is the man who says that they're financing their
|
||
|
revolution by smuggling drugs into the U.S. And the DEA says, 'It ain't true,
|
||
|
it's president Reagan's Contras that are doing it'....</p>
|
||
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|
||
|
<p>[When Reagan was governor of California, Reagan] said 'If there has to be a
|
||
|
bloodbath then let's get it over with'. Now you have to think about this a
|
||
|
minute. A leader of the U.S. seriously proposing a bloodbath of our own
|
||
|
youth. There was an outcry of the press, so 3 days later he said it again to
|
||
|
make sure no-one had misunderstood him.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>Read. You have to read to inform yourselves. Read "The Book of Quotes"; "On
|
||
|
Reagan: The Man and the Presidency" by Ronnie Dugger. It gets heavy. Dugger
|
||
|
concludes in his last chapter that President Reagan has a fixation on
|
||
|
Armageddon. The Village Voice 18 months ago published an article citing the
|
||
|
11 times that President Reagan publicly has talked about the fact that we are
|
||
|
all living out Armageddon today....</p>
|
||
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|
||
|
<p>[Reagan] has Jerry Falwell into the White House. This is the man that
|
||
|
preaches that we should get on our knees and beg for God to send the rapture
|
||
|
down. Hell's fires on earth so the chosen can go up on high and all the other
|
||
|
people can burn in hell's fires on earth. President Reagan sees himself as
|
||
|
playing the role of the greatest leader of all times forever. Leading us into
|
||
|
Armageddon. As he goes out at the end of his long life, we'll all go out with
|
||
|
him....</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>Why does the CIA run 10000 brutal covert actions? Why are we destabilizing a
|
||
|
third of the countries in the world today when there's so much instability and
|
||
|
misery already? Why are our leaders now taking us into another war? Why are
|
||
|
we systematically taught to hate and fight other people?</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>What you have to understand is the politics of paranoia. The easiest...
|
||
|
buttons to punch are the buttons of macho, aggression, paranoia, hate, anger,
|
||
|
and fear. The Communists are in Managua and that's just 2 hours from San
|
||
|
Diego, CA. This gets people excited, they don't think. It's the pep-rally,
|
||
|
the football pep-rally factor. When you get people worked up to hate, they'll
|
||
|
let you spend huge amounts of money on arms.</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>Read "The Power Elite" by C. Wright Mills. Read "The Permanent War Complex"
|
||
|
by Seymour Melman. CIA covert actions have the function of keeping the world
|
||
|
hostile and unstable....</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>We can't take care of the poor, we can't take care of the old, but we can
|
||
|
spend millions, hundreds of millions of dollars to destabilize Nicaragua....</p>
|
||
|
|
||
|
<p>Why arms instead of schools? .... They can make gigantic profits off the
|
||
|
nuclear arms race because of the hysteria, and the paranoia, and the secrecy.
|
||
|
And that's why they're committed to building more and more and more weapons,
|
||
|
is because they're committed to making a profit. And that's what the
|
||
|
propaganda, and that's what the hysteria is all about. Now people say, 'What
|
||
|
can I do?'....</p>
|
||
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|
||
|
<p>The youth *did* rise up and stop the Vietnam war....</p>
|
||
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|
||
|
<p>We have to join hands with the people in England, and France, and Germany, and
|
||
|
Israel, and the Soviet Union, and China, and India - the countries that have
|
||
|
the bomb, and the others that are trying to get it. And give our leaders no
|
||
|
choice. They have to find some other way to do business other than to
|
||
|
motivate us through hate and paranoia and anger and killing, or we'll find
|
||
|
other leaders to run the country.</p>
|
||
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|
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|
<p>Now, Helen Caldicott, at the end of her lectures, I've heard her say, very
|
||
|
effectively, "Tell people to get out and get to work on the problem.... You'll
|
||
|
feel better" ....</p>
|
||
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|
||
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<p>'What can I do?'.... If you can travel, go to Nicaragua and see for yourself.
|
||
|
Go to the Nevada test site and see for yourself. Go to Pantex on Hiroshima
|
||
|
day this summer, and see the vigil there. The place where we make 10
|
||
|
nose-cones a day, 70 a week, year in and year out. He [Admiral LaRocque]
|
||
|
said, "I'd tell them, if they feel comfortable lying down in front of trucks
|
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with bombs on them, to lie down in front of trucks with bombs on them." But
|
||
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he said, "I'd tell them that they can't wait. They've got to start tomorrow,
|
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today, and do it, what they can, every day of their lives."</p>
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