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2. MFAQ--Most Frequently Asked Questions
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Most Frequently Asked Questions
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============
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2.1. copyright
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##2.1. copyright
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THE CYPHERNOMICON: Cypherpunks FAQ and More, Version 0.666,
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1994-09-10, Copyright Timothy C. May. All rights reserved.
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See the detailed disclaimer. Use short sections under "fair
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use" provisions, with appropriate credit, but don't put your
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name on my words.
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2.2. SUMMARY: MFAQ--Most Frequently Asked Questions
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THE CYPHERNOMICON: Cypherpunks FAQ and More, Version 0.666,
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2.2.1. Main Points
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1994-09-10, Copyright Timothy C. May. All rights reserved.
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- These are the main questions that keep coming up. Not
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See the detailed disclaimer. Use short sections under "fair
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necessarily the most basic question, just the ones that get
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use" provisions, with appropriate credit, but don't put your
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asked a lot. What most FAQs are.
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name on my words.
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2.2.2. Connections to Other Sections
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2.2.3. Where to Find Additional Information
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- newcomers to crypto should buy Bruce Schneier's "Applied
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Cryptography"...it will save many hours worth of
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unnecessary questions and clueless remarks about
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cryptography.
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- the various FAQs publishe in the newsroups (like sci.crypt,
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alt.security.pgp) are very helpful. (also at rtfm.mit.edu)
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2.2.4. Miscellaneous Comments
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- I wasn't sure what to include here in the MFAQ--perhaps
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people can make suggestions of other things to include.
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- My advice is that if something interests you, use your
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editing/searching tools to find the same topic in the main
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section. Usually (but not always) there's more material in
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the main chapters than here in the MFAQ.
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2.3. "What's the 'Big Picture'?"
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##2.2. SUMMARY: MFAQ--Most Frequently Asked Questions
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2.3.1. Strong crypto is here. It is widely available.
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2.3.2. It implies many changes in the way the world works. Private
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Main Points
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channels between parties who have never met and who never
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will meet are possible. Totally anonymous, unlinkable,
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- These are the main questions that keep coming up. Not
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untraceable communications and exchanges are possible.
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necessarily the most basic question, just the ones that get
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2.3.3. Transactions can only be *voluntary*, since the parties are
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asked a lot. What most FAQs are.
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untraceable and unknown and can withdraw at any time. This
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- Connections to Other Sections
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has profound implications for the conventional approach of
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- Where to Find Additional Information
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using the threat of force, directed against parties by
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- newcomers to crypto should buy Bruce Schneier's "Applied
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governments or by others. In particular, threats of force
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Cryptography"...it will save many hours worth of
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will fail.
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unnecessary questions and clueless remarks about
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2.3.4. What emerges from this is unclear, but I think it will be a
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cryptography.
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form of anarcho-capitalist market system I call "crypto
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- the various FAQs publishe in the newsroups (like sci.crypt,
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anarchy." (Voluntary communications only, with no third
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alt.security.pgp) are very helpful. (also at rtfm.mit.edu)
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parties butting in.)
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- Miscellaneous Comments
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- I wasn't sure what to include here in the MFAQ--perhaps
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people can make suggestions of other things to include.
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- My advice is that if something interests you, use your
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editing/searching tools to find the same topic in the main
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section. Usually (but not always) there's more material in
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the main chapters than here in the MFAQ.
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##2.3. "What's the 'Big Picture'?"
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- Strong crypto is here. It is widely available.
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- It implies many changes in the way the world works. Private
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channels between parties who have never met and who never
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will meet are possible. Totally anonymous, unlinkable,
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untraceable communications and exchanges are possible.
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- Transactions can only be *voluntary*, since the parties are
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untraceable and unknown and can withdraw at any time. This
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has profound implications for the conventional approach of
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using the threat of force, directed against parties by
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governments or by others. In particular, threats of force
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will fail.
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- What emerges from this is unclear, but I think it will be a
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form of anarcho-capitalist market system I call "crypto
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anarchy." (Voluntary communications only, with no third
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parties butting in.)
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- 2.4. Organizational
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- "How do I get on--and off--the Cypherpunks list?"
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- Send a message to "cypherpunks-request@toad.com"
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- Any auto-processed commands?
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- don't send requests to the list as a whole....this will
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mark you as "clueless"
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- "Why does the Cypherpunks list sometimes go down, or lose the
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subscription list?"
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- The host machine, toad.com, owned by John Gilmore, has had
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the usual problems such machines have: overloading,
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shortages of disk space, software upgrades, etc. Hugh
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Daniel has done an admirable job of keeping it in good
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shape, but problems do occur.
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- Think of it as warning that lists and communication systems
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remain somewhat fragile....a lesson for what is needed to
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make digital money more robust and trustable.
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- There is no paid staff, no hardware budget for
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improvements. The work done is strictly voluntarily.
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- "If I've just joined the Cypherpunks list, what should I do?"
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- Read for a while. Things will become clearer, themes will
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emerge, and certain questions will be answered. This is
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good advice for any group or list, and is especially so for
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a list with 500 or more people on it. (We hit 700+ at one
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point, then a couple of list outages knocked the number
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down a bit.)
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- Read the references mentioned here, if you can. The
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sci.crypt FAQ should be read. And purchase Bruce Schneier's
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"Applied Cryptography" the first chance you get.
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- Join in on things that interest you, but don't make a fool
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of yourself. Reputations matter, and you may come to regret
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having come across as a tedious fool in your first weeks on
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the list. (If you're a tedious fool after the first few
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weeks, that may just be your nature, of course.)
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- Avoid ranting and raving on unrelated topics, such as
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abortion (pro or con), guns (pro or con), etc. The usual
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topics that usually generate a lot of heat and not much
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light. (Yes, most of us have strong views on these and
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other topics, and, yes, we sometimes let our views creep
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into discussions. There's no denying that certain
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resonances exist. I'm just urging caution.)
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- "I'm swamped by the list volume; what can I do?"
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- This is a natural reaction. Nobody can follow it all; I
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spend entirely too many hours a day reading the list, and I
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certainly can't follow it all. Pick areas of expertise and
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then follow them and ignore the rest. After all, not seeing
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things on the list can be no worse than not even being
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subscribed to the list!
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- Hit the "delete" key quickly
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- find someone who will digest it for you (Eric Hughes has
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repeatedly said anyone can retransmit the list this way;
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Hal Finney has offered an encrypted list)
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+ Better mailers may help. Some people have used mail-to-news
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systems and then read the list as a local newsgroup, with
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threads.
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- I have Eudora, which supports off-line reading and
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sorting features, but I generally end up reading with an
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online mail program (elm).
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- The mailing list may someday be switched over to a
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newsgroup, a la "alt.cypherpunks." (This may affect some
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people whose sites do not carry alt groups.)
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- "It's very easy to get lost in the morass of detail here. Are
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there any ways to track what's *really* important?"
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- First, a lot of the stuff posted in the Usenet newsgroups,
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and on the Cypherpunks list, is peripheral stuff,
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epiphenomenal cruft that will blow away in the first strong
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breeze. Grungy details about PGP shells, about RSA
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encryption speeds, about NSA supercomputers. There's just
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no reason for people to worry about "weak IDEA keys" when
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so many more pressing matters exist. (Let the experts
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worry.) Little of this makes any real difference, just as
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little of the stuff in daily newspapers is memorable or
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deserves to be memorable.
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- Second, "read the sources." Read "1984," "The Shockwave
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Rider," "Atlas Shrugged," "True Names." Read the Chaum
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article on making Big Brother obsolete (October 1985,
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"Communications of the ACM").
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- Third, don't lose sight of the core values: privacy,
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technological solutions over legal solutions, avoiding
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taxation, bypassing laws, etc. (Not everyone will agree
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with all of these points.)
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- Fourth, don't drown in the detail. Pick some areas of
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interest and follow _them_. You may not need to know the
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inner workings of DES or all the switches on PGP to make
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contributions in other areas. (In fact, you surely don't.)
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- "Who are the Cypherpunks?"
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- A mix of about 500-700
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+ Can find out who by sending message to majordomo@toad.com
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with the message body text "who cypherpunks" (no quotes, of
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course).
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- Is this a privacy flaw? Maybe.
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- Lots of students (they have the time, the Internet
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accounts). Lots of computer science/programming folks. Lots
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of libertarians.
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- quote from Wired article, and from "Whole Earth Review"
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- "Who runs the Cypherpunks?"
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- Nobody. There's no formal "leadership." No ruler = no head
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= an arch = anarchy. (Look up the etymology of anarchy.)
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- However, the mailing list currently resides on a physical
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machine, and this machine creates some nexus of control,
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much like having a party at someon'e house. The list
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administrator is currently Eric Hughes (and has been since
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the beginning). He is helped by Hugh Daniel, who often does
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maintenance of the toad.com, and by John Gilmore, who owns
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the toad.com machine and account.
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- In an extreme situation of abuse or neverending ranting,
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these folks could kick someone off the list and block them
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from resubscribing via majordomo. (I presume they could--
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it's never happened.)
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- To emphasize: nobody's ever been kicked off the list, so
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far as I know. Not even Detweiler...he asked to be removed
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(when the list subscribes were done manually).
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- As to who sets policy, there is no policy! No charter, no
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agenda, no action items. Just what people want to work on
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themselves. Which is all that can be expected. (Some people
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get frustrated at this lack of consensus, and they
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sometimes start flaming and ranting about "Cypherpunks
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never do anything," but this lack of consensus is to be
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expected. Nobody's being paid, nobody's got hiring and
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firing authority, so any work that gets done has to be
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voluntary. Some volunteer groups are more organized than we
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are, but there are other factors that make this more
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possible for them than it is for us. C'est la vie.)
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- Those who get heard on the mailing list, or in the physical
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meetings, are those who write articles that people find
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interesting or who say things of note. Sounds fair to me.
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- "Why don't the issues that interest me get discussed?"
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- Maybe they already have been--several times. Many newcomers
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are often chagrined to find arcane topics being discussed,
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with little discussion of "the basics."
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- This is hardly surprising....people get over the "basics"
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after a few months and want to move on to more exciting (to
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them) topics. All lists are like this.
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- In any case, after you've read the list for a while--maybe
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several weeks--go ahead and ask away. Making your topic
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fresher may generate more responses than, say, asking
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what's wrong with Clipper. (A truly overworked topic,
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naturally.)
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- "How did the Cypherpunks group get started?"
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- "Where did the name 'Cypherpunks' come from?"
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+ Jude Milhon, aka St. Jude, then an editor at "Mondo 2000,"
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was at the earliest meetings...she quipped "You guys are
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just a bunch of cypherpunks." The name was adopted
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immediately.
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- The 'cyberpunk' genre of science fiction often deals with
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issues of cyberspace and computer security ("ice"), so
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the link is natural. A point of confusion is that
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cyberpunks are popularly thought of as, well, as "punks,"
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while many Cyberpunks are frequently libertarians and
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anarchists of various stripes. In my view, the two are
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not in conflict.
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- Some, however, would prefer a more staid name. The U.K.
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branch calls itself the "U.K. Crypto Privacy
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Association." <check this> However, the advantages of the
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name are clear. For one thing, many people are bored by
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staid names. For another, it gets us noticed by
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journalists and others.
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- We are actually not very "punkish" at all. About as punkish
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as most of our cyberpunk cousins are, which is to say, not
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very.
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+ the name
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- Crypto Cabal (this before the sci.crypt FAQ folks
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appeared, I think), Crypto Liberation Front, other names
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- not everybody likes the name...such is life
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## Partially completed FAQ section
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2.4. Organizational
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2.4.1. "How do I get on--and off--the Cypherpunks list?"
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- Send a message to "cypherpunks-request@toad.com"
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- Any auto-processed commands?
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- don't send requests to the list as a whole....this will
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mark you as "clueless"
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2.4.2. "Why does the Cypherpunks list sometimes go down, or lose the
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subscription list?"
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- The host machine, toad.com, owned by John Gilmore, has had
|
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the usual problems such machines have: overloading,
|
|
||||||
shortages of disk space, software upgrades, etc. Hugh
|
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Daniel has done an admirable job of keeping it in good
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shape, but problems do occur.
|
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||||||
- Think of it as warning that lists and communication systems
|
|
||||||
remain somewhat fragile....a lesson for what is needed to
|
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||||||
make digital money more robust and trustable.
|
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||||||
- There is no paid staff, no hardware budget for
|
|
||||||
improvements. The work done is strictly voluntarily.
|
|
||||||
2.4.3. "If I've just joined the Cypherpunks list, what should I do?"
|
|
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- Read for a while. Things will become clearer, themes will
|
|
||||||
emerge, and certain questions will be answered. This is
|
|
||||||
good advice for any group or list, and is especially so for
|
|
||||||
a list with 500 or more people on it. (We hit 700+ at one
|
|
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point, then a couple of list outages knocked the number
|
|
||||||
down a bit.)
|
|
||||||
- Read the references mentioned here, if you can. The
|
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sci.crypt FAQ should be read. And purchase Bruce Schneier's
|
|
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"Applied Cryptography" the first chance you get.
|
|
||||||
- Join in on things that interest you, but don't make a fool
|
|
||||||
of yourself. Reputations matter, and you may come to regret
|
|
||||||
having come across as a tedious fool in your first weeks on
|
|
||||||
the list. (If you're a tedious fool after the first few
|
|
||||||
weeks, that may just be your nature, of course.)
|
|
||||||
- Avoid ranting and raving on unrelated topics, such as
|
|
||||||
abortion (pro or con), guns (pro or con), etc. The usual
|
|
||||||
topics that usually generate a lot of heat and not much
|
|
||||||
light. (Yes, most of us have strong views on these and
|
|
||||||
other topics, and, yes, we sometimes let our views creep
|
|
||||||
into discussions. There's no denying that certain
|
|
||||||
resonances exist. I'm just urging caution.)
|
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2.4.4. "I'm swamped by the list volume; what can I do?"
|
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- This is a natural reaction. Nobody can follow it all; I
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spend entirely too many hours a day reading the list, and I
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||||||
certainly can't follow it all. Pick areas of expertise and
|
|
||||||
then follow them and ignore the rest. After all, not seeing
|
|
||||||
things on the list can be no worse than not even being
|
|
||||||
subscribed to the list!
|
|
||||||
- Hit the "delete" key quickly
|
|
||||||
- find someone who will digest it for you (Eric Hughes has
|
|
||||||
repeatedly said anyone can retransmit the list this way;
|
|
||||||
Hal Finney has offered an encrypted list)
|
|
||||||
+ Better mailers may help. Some people have used mail-to-news
|
|
||||||
systems and then read the list as a local newsgroup, with
|
|
||||||
threads.
|
|
||||||
- I have Eudora, which supports off-line reading and
|
|
||||||
sorting features, but I generally end up reading with an
|
|
||||||
online mail program (elm).
|
|
||||||
- The mailing list may someday be switched over to a
|
|
||||||
newsgroup, a la "alt.cypherpunks." (This may affect some
|
|
||||||
people whose sites do not carry alt groups.)
|
|
||||||
2.4.5. "It's very easy to get lost in the morass of detail here. Are
|
|
||||||
there any ways to track what's *really* important?"
|
|
||||||
- First, a lot of the stuff posted in the Usenet newsgroups,
|
|
||||||
and on the Cypherpunks list, is peripheral stuff,
|
|
||||||
epiphenomenal cruft that will blow away in the first strong
|
|
||||||
breeze. Grungy details about PGP shells, about RSA
|
|
||||||
encryption speeds, about NSA supercomputers. There's just
|
|
||||||
no reason for people to worry about "weak IDEA keys" when
|
|
||||||
so many more pressing matters exist. (Let the experts
|
|
||||||
worry.) Little of this makes any real difference, just as
|
|
||||||
little of the stuff in daily newspapers is memorable or
|
|
||||||
deserves to be memorable.
|
|
||||||
- Second, "read the sources." Read "1984," "The Shockwave
|
|
||||||
Rider," "Atlas Shrugged," "True Names." Read the Chaum
|
|
||||||
article on making Big Brother obsolete (October 1985,
|
|
||||||
"Communications of the ACM").
|
|
||||||
- Third, don't lose sight of the core values: privacy,
|
|
||||||
technological solutions over legal solutions, avoiding
|
|
||||||
taxation, bypassing laws, etc. (Not everyone will agree
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with all of these points.)
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- Fourth, don't drown in the detail. Pick some areas of
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interest and follow _them_. You may not need to know the
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inner workings of DES or all the switches on PGP to make
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contributions in other areas. (In fact, you surely don't.)
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2.4.6. "Who are the Cypherpunks?"
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- A mix of about 500-700
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+ Can find out who by sending message to majordomo@toad.com
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with the message body text "who cypherpunks" (no quotes, of
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course).
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- Is this a privacy flaw? Maybe.
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- Lots of students (they have the time, the Internet
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accounts). Lots of computer science/programming folks. Lots
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of libertarians.
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- quote from Wired article, and from "Whole Earth Review"
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2.4.7. "Who runs the Cypherpunks?"
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- Nobody. There's no formal "leadership." No ruler = no head
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= an arch = anarchy. (Look up the etymology of anarchy.)
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- However, the mailing list currently resides on a physical
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machine, and this machine creates some nexus of control,
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much like having a party at someon'e house. The list
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administrator is currently Eric Hughes (and has been since
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the beginning). He is helped by Hugh Daniel, who often does
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maintenance of the toad.com, and by John Gilmore, who owns
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the toad.com machine and account.
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- In an extreme situation of abuse or neverending ranting,
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these folks could kick someone off the list and block them
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from resubscribing via majordomo. (I presume they could--
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it's never happened.)
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- To emphasize: nobody's ever been kicked off the list, so
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far as I know. Not even Detweiler...he asked to be removed
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(when the list subscribes were done manually).
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- As to who sets policy, there is no policy! No charter, no
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agenda, no action items. Just what people want to work on
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themselves. Which is all that can be expected. (Some people
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get frustrated at this lack of consensus, and they
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sometimes start flaming and ranting about "Cypherpunks
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never do anything," but this lack of consensus is to be
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expected. Nobody's being paid, nobody's got hiring and
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firing authority, so any work that gets done has to be
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voluntary. Some volunteer groups are more organized than we
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are, but there are other factors that make this more
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possible for them than it is for us. C'est la vie.)
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- Those who get heard on the mailing list, or in the physical
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meetings, are those who write articles that people find
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interesting or who say things of note. Sounds fair to me.
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2.4.8. "Why don't the issues that interest me get discussed?"
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- Maybe they already have been--several times. Many newcomers
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are often chagrined to find arcane topics being discussed,
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with little discussion of "the basics."
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- This is hardly surprising....people get over the "basics"
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after a few months and want to move on to more exciting (to
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them) topics. All lists are like this.
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- In any case, after you've read the list for a while--maybe
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several weeks--go ahead and ask away. Making your topic
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fresher may generate more responses than, say, asking
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what's wrong with Clipper. (A truly overworked topic,
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naturally.)
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2.4.9. "How did the Cypherpunks group get started?"
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2.4.10. "Where did the name 'Cypherpunks' come from?"
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+ Jude Milhon, aka St. Jude, then an editor at "Mondo 2000,"
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was at the earliest meetings...she quipped "You guys are
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just a bunch of cypherpunks." The name was adopted
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immediately.
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- The 'cyberpunk' genre of science fiction often deals with
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issues of cyberspace and computer security ("ice"), so
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the link is natural. A point of confusion is that
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cyberpunks are popularly thought of as, well, as "punks,"
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while many Cyberpunks are frequently libertarians and
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anarchists of various stripes. In my view, the two are
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not in conflict.
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- Some, however, would prefer a more staid name. The U.K.
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branch calls itself the "U.K. Crypto Privacy
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Association." <check this> However, the advantages of the
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name are clear. For one thing, many people are bored by
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staid names. For another, it gets us noticed by
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journalists and others.
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-
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- We are actually not very "punkish" at all. About as punkish
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as most of our cyberpunk cousins are, which is to say, not
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very.
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+ the name
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- Crypto Cabal (this before the sci.crypt FAQ folks
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appeared, I think), Crypto Liberation Front, other names
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- not everybody likes the name...such is life
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2.4.11. "Why doesn't the Cypherpunks group have announced goals,
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2.4.11. "Why doesn't the Cypherpunks group have announced goals,
|
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ideologies, and plans?"
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ideologies, and plans?"
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- The short answer: we're just a mailing list, a loose
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- The short answer: we're just a mailing list, a loose
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