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Article: 8710 of alt.censorship
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From: dave@ratmandu.esd.sgi.com (dave "who can do? ratmandu!" ratcliffe)
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Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.conspiracy.jfk,alt.activism,alt.censorship
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Subject: The Last Words Of Lee Harvey Oswald
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Keywords: Oswald's murder & silencing was critical to the conspirator's success
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Message-ID: <1992May28.172939.22617@odin.corp.sgi.com>
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Date: 28 May 92 17:29:39 GMT
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1963: Dallas
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The Government Decides That Truth Doesn't Exist
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At noon, on a street in Dallas, the president of the United States is
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assassinated. He is hardly dead when the official version is
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broadcast. In that version, which will be the definitive one, Lee
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Harvey Oswald alone has killed John Kennedy.
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The weapon does not coincide with the bullet, nor the bullet with
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the holes. The accused does not coincide with the accusation:
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Oswald is an exceptionally bad shot of mediocre physique, but
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according to the official version, his acts were those of a champion
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marksman and Olympic sprinter. He has fired an old rifle with
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impossible speed and his magic bullet, turning and twisting
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acrobatically to penetrate Kennedy and John Connally, the governor of
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Texas, remains miraculously intact.
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Oswald strenuously denies it. But no one knows, no one will ever
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know what he has to say. Two days later he collapses before the
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television cameras, the whole world witness to the spectacle, his
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mouth shut by Jack Ruby, a two-bit gangster and minor trafficker in
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women and drugs. Ruby says he has avenged Kennedy out of patriotism
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and pity for the poor widow.
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-- Eduardo Galeano, "Memory of Fire: III Century of the Wind."
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Part Three of a Trilogy, translated by Cedric Belfrage,
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Pantheon Books, 1988, p. 183
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the following is taken from "The People's Almanac #2," by David
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Wallechinsky and Irving Wallace, Bantam Books, 1978, pp. 47-52.
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_________________________________________________________________________
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THE LAST WORDS OF LEE HARVEY OSWALD
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Compiled by Mae Brussell
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Did Lee Harvey Oswald act alone in shooting Pres. John F. Kennedy
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on Nov. 22, 1963, or did he conspire with others? Was he serving
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as an agent of Cuba's Fidel Castro, himself the target of American
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assassins? Or in squeezing the trigger of his carbine was he
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undertaking some super "dirty trick" for a CIA anxious to rid
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itself of a president whose faith in the "company" had evaporated
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in the wake of the Bay of Pigs fiasco? Or was he representing a
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group of Cuban exiles, the Teamsters Union, the Mafia? Indeed, was
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it Lee Harvey Oswald at all who killed JFK? Or was there a double
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impersonating Oswald? These questions continue to nag many people
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more than a decade and a half after that dreadful day in Dallas, in
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spite of the 26 volumes of hearings and exhibits served up by the
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Warren Commission, the congressional investigations, the release of
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heretofore classified FBI documents.
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Almost everyone, it seems, has been heard from on the Kennedy
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assassination and on Lee Harvey Oswald's guilt or innocence, except
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one person--Lee Harvey Oswald himself. From the time of Oswald's
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arrest to his own assassination at the hands of Jack Ruby, no
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formal transcript or record was kept of statements made by the
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alleged killer. It was said that no tape recordings were made of
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Oswald's remarks, and many notes taken of his statements were
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destroyed.
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Determined to learn Oswald's last words, his only testimony, "The
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People's Almanac" assigned one of the leading authorities on the
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Kennedy assassination, Mae Brussell, to compile every known
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statement or remark made by Oswald between his arrest and death.
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The quotes, edited for space and clarity, are based on the
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recollections of a variety of witnesses present at different times
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and are not verbatim transcripts. "After 14 years of research on
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the JFK assassination," Mae Brussell concludes, "I am of the
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opinion that Lee Harvey Oswald was telling the truth about his role
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in the assassination during these interrogations."
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12:30 P.M., CST, NOV. 22, 1963 Pres. John F. Kennedy Assassinated
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12:33 P.M.
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Lee Harvey Oswald left work, entered a bus, and said, "Transfer, please."
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12:40 - 12:45 P.M.
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Oswald got off the bus, entered a cab, and said, "May I have this cab?"
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A woman approached, wanting a cab, and Oswald said, "I will let you have
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this one. . . . 500 North Beckley Street [instructions to William Whaley,
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driver of another cab]. . . . This will be fine." Oswald departed cab
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and walked a few blocks.
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1:15 P.M. Officer J. D. Tippit Murdered
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1:45 P.M. Arrest at the Texas Theater
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"This is it" or "Well, it's all over now." Oswald arrested. (Patrolman
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M. N. McDonald heard these remarks. Other officers who were at the scene
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did not hear them.) "I don't know why you are treating me like this. The
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only thing I have done is carry a pistol into a movie. . . . I don't see
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why you handcuffed me. . . . Why should I hide my face? I haven't done
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anything to be ashamed of. . . . I want a lawyer. . . . I am not
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resisting arrest. . . . I didn't kill anybody. . . . I haven't shot
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anybody. . . . I protest this police brutality. . . . I fought back
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there, but I know I wasn't supposed to be carrying a gun. . . . What is
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this all about?"
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2:00 - 2:15 P.M. Drive to Police Dept.
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"What is this all about? . . . I know my rights. . . . A police
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officer has been killed? . . . I hear they burn for murder. Well, they
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say it just takes a second to die. . . . All I did was carry a gun. . . .
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No, Hidell is not my real name. . . . I have been in the Marine Corps,
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have a dishonorable discharge, and went to Russia. . . . I had some
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trouble with police in New Orleans for passing out pro-Castro literature.
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right. . . . I demand my rights."
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2:15 P.M. Taken into Police Dept.
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2:15 - 2:20 P.M.
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"Talked to" by officers Guy F. Rose and Richard S. Stovall. No notes.
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2:25 - 4:04 P.M. Interrogation of Oswald, Office of Capt Will Fritz
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"My name is Lee Harvey Oswald. . . . I work at the Texas School Book
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Depository Building. . . . I lived in Minsk and in Moscow. . . . I
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worked in a factory. . . . I liked everything over there except the
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weather. . . . I have a wife and some children. . . . My residence is
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1026 North Beckley, Dallas, Tex." Oswald recognized FBI agent James Hosty
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and said, "You have been at my home two or three times talking to my wife.
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I don't appreciate your coming out there when I was not there. . . . I
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was never in Mexico City. I have been in Tijuana. . . . Please take the
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handcuffs from behind me, behind my back. . . . I observed a rifle in the
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Texas School Book Depository where I work, on Nov. 20, 1963. . . . Mr.
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Roy Truly, the supervisor, displayed the rifle to individuals in his
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office on the first floor. . . . I never owned a rifle myself. . . . I
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resided in the Soviet Union for three years, where I have many friends and
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relatives of my wife. . . . I was secretary of the Fair Play for Cuba
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Committee in New Orleans a few months ago. . . . While in the Marines, I
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received an award for marksmanship as a member of the U.S. Marine Corps.
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was present in the Texas School Book Depository Building, I have been
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employed there since Oct. 15, 1963. . . . As a laborer, I have access to
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the entire building. . . . My usual place of work is on the first floor.
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However, I frequently use the fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh floors to get
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books. I was on all floors this morning. . . . Because of all the
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confusion, I figured there would be no work performed that afternoon so I
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decided to go home. . . . I changed my clothing and went to a movie.
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no other reason. . . . I fought the Dallas Police who arrested me in the
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movie theater where I received a cut and a bump. . . . I didn't shoot
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Pres. John F. Kennedy or Officer J. D. Tippit. . . . An officer struck
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me, causing the marks on my left eye, after I had struck him. . . . I
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just had them in there," when asked why he had bullets in his pocket.
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3:54 P.M.
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NBC newsman Bill Ryan announced on national television that "Lee Oswald
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seems to be the prime suspect in the assassination of John F. Kennedy."
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4:45 P.M. At a Lineup for Helen Markham, Witness to Tippit Murder
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"It isn't right to put me in line with these teenagers. . . . You know
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what you are doing, and you are trying to railroad me. . . . I want my
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lawyer. . . . You are doing me an injustice by putting me out there
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dressed different than these other men. . . . I am out there, the only
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one with a bruise on his head. . . . I don t believe the lineup is fair,
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and I desire to put on a jacket similar to those worn by some of the other
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individuals in the lineup. . . . All of you have a shirt on, and I have a
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T-shirt on. I want a shirt or something. . . . This T-shirt is unfair."
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4:45 - 6:30 P.M. Second Interrogation of Oswald, Captain Fritz's Office
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"When I left the Texas School Book Depository, I went to my room, where
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I changed my trousers, got a pistol, and went to a picture show. . . .
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You know how boys do when they have a gun, they carry it. . . . Yes, I
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had written the Russian Embassy. (On Nov. 9, 1963, Oswald had written to
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the Russian Embassy that FBI agent James Hosty was making some kind of
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deals with Marina, and he didn't trust "the notorious FBI.") . . . Mr.
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Hosty, you have been accosting my wife. You mistreated her on two
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different occasions when you talked with her. . . . I know you. Well, he
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threatened her. He practically told her she would have to go back to
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Russia. You know, I can't use a phone. . . . I want that attorney in New
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York, Mr. Abt. I don't know him personally but I know about a case that
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he handled some years ago, where he represented the people who had
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violated the Smith Act, [which made it illegal to teach or advocate the
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violent overthrow of the U.S. government] . . . I don't know him
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personally, but that is the attorney I want. . . . If I can't get him,
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then I may get the American Civil Liberties Union to send me an attorney."
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"I went to school in New York and in Fort Worth, Tex. . . . After
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getting into the Marines, I finished my high school education. . . . I
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support the Castro revolution. . . . My landlady didn't understand my
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name correctly, so it was her idea to call me 0. H. Lee. . . . I want to
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talk with Mr. Abt, a New York attorney. . . . The only package I brought
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to work was my lunch. . . . I never had a card to the Communist party.
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pistol in Fort Worth several months ago. . . . I refuse to tell you
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where the pistol was purchased. . . . I never ordered any guns. . . . I
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am not malcontent. Nothing irritated me about the President." When Capt.
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Will Fritz asked Oswald, "Do you believe in a deity?" Oswald replied, "I
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don't care to discuss that." "How can I afford a rifle on the Book
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Depository salary of $1.25 an hour? . . . John Kennedy had a nice family.
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minutes after the assassination. Oswald confirmed this in Captain Fritz's
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office. A man impersonating Oswald in Dallas just prior to the
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assassination could have been on the bus and in the taxicab.) "That
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station wagon belongs to Mrs. Ruth Paine. Don't try to tie her into this.
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She had nothing to do with it. I told you people I did. . . . Everybody
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will know who I am now."
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"Can I get an attorney?. . . I have not been given the opportunity to
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have counsel. . . . As I said, the Fair Play for Cuba Committee has
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definitely been investigated, that is very true. . . . The results of
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that investigation were zero. The Fair Play for Cuba Committee is not
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now on the attorney general's subversive list."
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6:30 P.M. Lineup for Witnesses Cecil J. McWatters, Sam Guinyard, and
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Ted Callaway
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"I didn't shoot anyone," Oswald yelled in the halls to reporters. . . .
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"I want to get in touch with a lawyer, Mr. Abt, in New York City. . . . I
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never killed anybody."
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7:10 P.M. Arraignment: State of Texas v. Lee Harvey Oswald for Murder
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with Malice of Officer J. D. Tippit of the Dallas Police Dept.
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"I insist upon my constitutional rights. . . . The way you are treating
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me, I might as well be in Russia. . . . I was not granted my request to
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put on a jacket similar to those worn by other individuals in some
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previous lineups."
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7:50 P.M. Lineup for Witness J. D. Davis
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"I have been dressed differently than the other three. . . . Don't you
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know the difference? I still have on the same clothes I was arrested in.
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The other two were prisoners, already in jail." Seth Kantor, reporter,
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heard Oswald yell, "I am only a patsy."
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7:55 P.M. Third Interrogation, Captain Fritz's Office
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"I think I have talked long enough. I don't have anything else to say.
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rather lengthy. . . . I don't care to talk anymore. . . . I am waiting
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for someone to come forward to give me legal assistance. . . . It wasn't
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actually true as to how I got home. I took a bus, but due to a traffic
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jam, I left the bus and got a taxicab, by which means I actually arrived
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at my residence."
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8:55 P.M. Fingerprints, Identification Paraffin Tests--All in Fritz's
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Office
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"I will not sign the fingerprint card until I talk to my attorney.
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[Oswald's name is on the card anyway.] . . . What are you trying to prove
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with this paraffin test, that I fired a gun? . . . You are wasting your
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time. I don't know anything about what you are accusing me."
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11:00 - 11:20 P.M. "Talked To" by Police Officer John Adamcik and FBI
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Agent M. Clements
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"I was in Russia two years and liked it in Russia. . . . I am 5 ft. 9
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in., weigh 140 lb., have brown hair, blue-gray eyes, and have no tattoos
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or permanent scars."
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(Oswald had mastoidectomy scars and left upper-arm scars, both noted in
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Marine records. "Warren Report," pp. 614-618, lists information from
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Oswald obtained during this interview about members of his family, past
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employment, past residences.)
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11:20 - 11:25 P.M. Lineup for Press Conference; Jack Ruby Present
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When newsmen asked Oswald about his black eye, he answered, "A cop hit
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me." When asked about the earlier arraignment, Oswald said "Well, I was
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questioned by Judge Johnston. However, I protested at that time that I
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was not allowed legal representation during that very short and sweet
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hearing. I really don't know what the situation is about. Nobody has
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told me anything except that I am accused of murdering a policeman. I
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know nothing more than that, and I do request someone to come forward to
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give me legal assistance." When asked, "Did you kill the President?"
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Oswald replied, "No. I have not been charged with that. In fact, nobody
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has said that to me yet. The first thing I heard about it was when the
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newspaper reporters in the hall asked me that question. . . . I did not
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do it. I did not do it. . . . I did not shoot anyone."
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12:23 A.M., NOV. 23, 1963 Placed in Jail Cell
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12:35 A.M. Released by Jailer
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Oswald complained, "This is the third set of fingerprints, photographs
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being taken."
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1:10 A.M. Back in Jail Cell
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1:35 A.M. Arraignment: State of Texas v. Lee Harvey Oswald for the
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Murder with Malice of John F. Kennedy
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"Well, sir, I guess this is the trial. . . . I want to contact my
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lawyer, Mr. Abt, in New York City. I would like to have this gentleman.
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He is with the American Civil Liberties Union." (John J. Abt now in
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private practice in New York, was the general counsel for the Senate
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Sub-Committee on Civil Liberties from 1935-1937, and later served as legal
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adviser for the Progressive party from 1948-1951. Mr. Abt has never been
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a member of the ACLU.)
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10:30 A.M.-1:10 P.M. Interrogation, Capt. Will Fritz's Office
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"I said I wanted to contact Attorney Abt, New York. He defended the
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Smith Act cases in 1949, 1950, but I don't know his address, except that
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it is in New York. . . . I never owned a rifle. . . . Michael Paine
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owned a car, Ruth Paine owned two cars. . . . Robert Oswald, my brother,
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lives in Fort Worth. He and the Paines were closest friends in town. . .
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. The FBI has thoroughly interrogated me at various other times. . . .
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They have used their hard and soft approach to me, and they use the buddy
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system. . . . I am familiar with all types of questioning and have no
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intention of making any statements. . . . In the past three weeks the FBI
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has talked to my wife. They were abusive and impolite. They frightened
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my wife, and I consider their activities obnoxious."
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(When arrested, Oswald had FBI Agent James Hosty's home phone and office
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phone numbers and car license number in his possession.)
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"I was arrested in New Orleans for disturbing the peace and paid a $10
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fine for demonstrating for the Fair Play for Cuba Committee. I had a
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fight with some anti-Castro refugees and they were released while I was
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fined. . . . I refuse to take a polygraph. It has always been my
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practice not to agree to take a polygraph . . . The FBI has overstepped
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their bounds in using various tactics in interviewing me. . . . I didn't
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shoot John Kennedy. . . . I didn't even know Gov. John Connally had been
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shot. . . . I don't own a rifle. . . . I didn't tell Buell Wesley
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Frazier anything about bringing back some curtain rods. . . . My wife
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lives with Mrs. Ruth Paine. She [Mrs. Paine] was learning Russian. They
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needed help with the young baby, so it made a nice arrangement for both of
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them. . . . I don't know Mrs. Paine very well, but Mr. Paine and his wife
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were separated a great deal of the time."
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(Michael Paine worked at Bell Aerospace as a scientific engineer. His
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boss, Walter Dornberger, was a Nazi war criminal. The first call, the
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"tipoff," on Oswald, came from Bell Aerospace.)
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"The garage at the Paines' house has some seabags that have a lot of my
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personal belongings. I left them after coming back from New Orleans in
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September. . . . The name Alek Hidell was picked up while working in New
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Orleans in the Fair Play for Cuba organization. . . . I speak Russian,
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correspond with people in Russia, and receive newspapers from Russia. . .
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. I don't own a rifle at all. . . . I did have a small rifle some years
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in the past. You can't buy a rifle in Russia, you can only buy shotguns.
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I had a shotgun in Russia and hunted some while there. I didn't bring the
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rifle from New Orleans. . . . I am not a member of the Communist party. .
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. . I belong to the Civil Liberties Union. . . . I did carry a package
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to the Texas School Book Depository. I carried my lunch, a sandwich and
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fruit, which I made at Paine's house. . . . I had nothing personal
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against John Kennedy."
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1:10 - 1:30 P.M. Lee Harvey Oswald Visited by Mother, Marguerite Oswald,
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and Wife, Marina Oswald
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(To his Mother.) "No, there is nothing you can do. Everything is fine.
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I know my rights, and I will have an attorney. I already requested to get
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in touch with Attorney Abt, I think is his name. Don't worry about a
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thing."
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(To his Wife.) "Oh, no, they have not been beating me. They are
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treating me fine. . . . You're not to worry about that. Did you bring
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June and Rachel? . . . Of course we can speak about absolutely anything
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at all. . . . It's a mistake. I'm not guilty. There are people who will
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help me. There is a lawyer in New York on whom I am counting for help. .
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. . Don't cry. There is nothing to cry about. Try not to think about
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it. . . . Everything is going to be all right. If they ask you anything,
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you have a right not to answer. You have a right to refuse. Do you
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understand? . . . You are not to worry. You have friends. They'll help
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you. If it comes to that, you can ask the Red Cross for help. You
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mustn't worry about me. Kiss Junie and Rachel for me. I love you. . . .
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Be sure to buy shoes for June."
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2:15 P.M. Lineup for Witnesses William W. Scoggins and William Whaley
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"I refuse to answer questions. I have my T-shirt on, the other men are
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dressed differently. . . . Everybody's got a shirt and everything, and
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I've got a T-shirt on. . . . This is unfair."
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3:30 - 3:40 P.M. Robert Oswald, Brother, in Ten-Minute Visit
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"I cannot or would not say anything, because the line is apparently
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tapped. [They were talking through telephones.] . . . I got these
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bruises in the theater. They haven't bothered me since. They are
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treating me all right. . . . What do you think of the baby? Well, it was
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a girl, and I wanted a boy, but you know how that goes. . . . I don't
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know what is going on. I just don't know what they are talking about. . .
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. Don't believe all the so-called evidence." When Robert Oswald looked
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into Lee's eyes for some clue, Lee said to him, "Brother, you won't find
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anything there. . . . My friends will take care of Marina and the two
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children." When Robert Oswald stated that he didn't believe the Paines
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were friends of Lee's, he answered back, "Yes, they are. . . . Junie
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needs a new pair of shoes."
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(Robert Oswald told the Warren Commission, "To me his answers were
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mechanical, and I was not talking to the Lee I knew.")
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3:40 P.M. Lee Harvey Oswald Calls Mrs. Ruth Paine
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"This is Lee. Would you please call John Abt in New York for me after
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6:00 P.M. The number for his office is ___________, and his residence is
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_______________ . . . . Thank you for your concern."
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5:30 - 5:35 P.M. Visit with H. Louis Nichols, President of the Dallas
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Bar Association
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"Well, I really don't know what this is all about, that I have been kept
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incarcerated and kept incommunicado. . . . Do you know a lawyer in New
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York named John Abt? I believe in New York City. I would like to have
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him represent me. That is the man I would like. Do you know any lawyers
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who are members of the American Civil Liberties Union? I am a member of
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that organization, and I would like to have somebody who is a member of
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that organization represent me." Mr. Nichols offered to help find a
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lawyer, but Oswald said, "No, not now. You might come back next week, and
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if I don't get some of these other people to assist me, I might ask you to
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get somebody to represent me."
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6:00 - 6:30 P.M. Interrogation, Captain Fritz's Office
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"In time I will be able to show you that this is not my picture, but I
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don't want to answer any more questions. . . . I will not discuss this
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photograph [which was used on the cover of Feb. 21, 1964 "Life" magazine]
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without advice of an attorney. . . . There was another rifle in the
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building. I have seen it. Warren Caster had two rifles, a 30.06 Mauser
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and a .22 for his son. . . . That picture is not mine, but the face is
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mine. The picture has been made by superimposing my face. The other part
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of the picture is not me at all, and I have never seen this picture
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before. I understand photography real well, and that, in time, I will be
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able to show you that is not my picture and that it has been made by
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someone else. . . . It was entirely possible that the Police Dept. has
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superimposed this part of the photograph over the body of someone else. .
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. . The Dallas Police were the culprits. . . . The small picture was
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reduced from the larger one, made by some persons unknown to me. . . .
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Since I have been photographed at City Hall, with people taking my picture
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while being transferred from the office to the jail door, someone has been
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able to get a picture of my face, and with that, they have made this
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picture. . . . I never kept a rifle at Mrs. Paine's garage at Irving,
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Tex. . . . We had no visitors at our apartment on North Beckley. . . . I
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have no receipts for purchase of any gun, and I have never ordered any
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guns. I do not own a rifle, never possessed a rifle. . . . I will not
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say who wrote A. J. Hidell on my Selective Service card. [It was later
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confirmed that Marina Oswald wrote in the name Hidell.] . . . I will not
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tell you the purpose of carrying the card or the use I made of it. . . .
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The address book in my possession has the names of Russian immigrants in
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Dallas, Tex., whom I have visited."
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9:30 P.M. Lee Harvey Oswald Calls His Wife, Marina, at Mrs. Paine's Home
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"Marina, please. Would you try to locate her?" (Marina had moved.)
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10:00 P.M. Office of Captain Fritz
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"Life is better for the colored people in Russia than it is in the U.S."
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9:30 - 11:15 A.M., SUNDAY MORNING, NOV. 24,1963 Interrogation in Capt.
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Will Fritz's Office
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"After the assassination, a policeman or some man came rushing into the
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School Book Depository Building and said, `Where is your telephone?' He
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showed me some kind of credential and identified himself, so he might not
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have been a police officer. . . . `Right there,' I answered, pointing to
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the phone. . . . `Yes, I can eat lunch with you,' I told my co-worker,
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`but I can't go right now. You go and take the elevator, but send the
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elevator back up.' [The elevator in the building was broken.] . . .
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After all this commotion started, I just went downstairs and started to
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see what it was all about. A police officer and my superintendent of the
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place stepped up and told officers that I am one of the employees in the
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building. . . . If you ask me about the shooting of Tippit, I don't know
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what you are talking about. . . . The only thing I am here for is because
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I popped a policeman in the nose in the theater on Jefferson Avenue, which
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I readily admit I did, because I was protecting myself. . . . I learned
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about the job vacancy at the Texas School Book Depository from people in
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Mrs. Paine's neighborhood. . . . I visited my wife Thursday night, Nov.
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21, whereas I normally visited her over the weekend, because Mrs. Paine
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was giving a party for the children on the weekend. They were having a
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houseful of neighborhood children. I didn't want to be around at such a
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time. . . . Therefore, my weekly visit was on Thursday night instead of
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on the weekend. . . . It didn't cost much to go to Mexico. It cost me
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some $26, a small, ridiculous amount to eat, and another ridiculous small
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amount to stay all night. . . . I went to the Mexican Embassy to try to
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get this permission to go to Russia by way of Cuba. . . . I went to the
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Mexican Consulate in Mexico City. I went to the Russian Embassy to go to
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Russia by way of Cuba. They told me to come back in `thirty days.' . . .
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I don't recall the shape, it may have been a small sack, or a large sack;
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you don't always find one that just fits your sandwiches. . . . The sack
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was in the car, beside me, on my lap, as it always is. . . . I didn't get
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it crushed. It was not on the back seat. Mr. Frazier must have been
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mistaken or else thinking about the other time when he picked me up. . . .
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The Fair Play for Cuba Committee was a loosely organized thing and we had
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no officers. Probably you can call me the secretary of it because I did
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collect money. [Oswald was the only member in New Orleans.] . . . In New
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York City they have a well-organized, or a better, organization. . . .
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No, not at all: I didn't intend to organize here in Dallas; I was too
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busy trying to get a job. . . . If anyone else was entitled to get mail
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in P.O. Box 6525 at the Terminal Annex in New Orleans, the answer is no. .
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. . The rental application said Fair Play for Cuba Committee and the
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American Civil Liberties Union. Maybe I put them on there. . . . It is
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possible that on rare occasions I may have handed one of the keys to my
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wife to get my mail, but certainly nobody else. . . . I never ordered a
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rifle under the name of Hidell, Oswald, or any other name. . . . I never
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permitted anyone else to order a rifle to be received in this box. . . .
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I never ordered any rifle by mail order or bought any money order for the
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purpose of paying for such a rifle. . . . I didn't own any rifle. I have
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not practiced or shot with a rifle. . . . I subscribe to two publications
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from Russia, one being a hometown paper published in Minsk, where I met
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and married my wife. . . . We moved around so much that it was more
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practical to simply rent post office boxes and have mail forwarded from
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one box to the next rather than going through the process of furnishing
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changes of address to the publishers. . . . Marina Oswald and A. J.
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Hidell were listed under the caption of persons entitled to receive mail
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through my box in New Orleans. . . . I don't recall anything about the
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A. J. Hidell being on the post office card. . . . I presume you have
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reference to a map I had in my room with some X's on it. I have no
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automobile. I have no means of conveyance. I have to walk from where I
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am going most of the time. I had my applications with the Texas
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Employment Commission. They furnished me names and addresses of places
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that had openings like I might fill, and neighborhood people had
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furnished me information on jobs I might get. . . . I was seeking a job,
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and I would put these markings on this map so I could plan my itinerary
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around with less walking. Each one of these X's represented a place where
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I went and interviewed for a job. . . . You can check each one of them
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out if you want to. . . . The X on the intersection of Elm and Houston is
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the location of the Texas School Book Depository. I did go there and
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interview for a job. In fact, I got the job there. That is all the map
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amounts to. [Ruth Paine later stated she had marked Lee's map.] . . .
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What religion am I? I have no faith, I suppose you mean, in the Bible. I
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have read the Bible. It is fair reading, but not very interesting. As a
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matter of fact, I am a student of philosophy and I don't consider the
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Bible as even a reasonable or intelligent philosophy. I don't think of
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it. . . . I told you I haven't shot a rifle since the Marines, possibly a
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small bore, maybe a .22, but not anything larger since I have left the
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Marine Corps. . . . I never received a package sent to me through the
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mailbox in Dallas, Box No. 2915, under the name of Alek Hidell, absolutely
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not. . . . Maybe my wife, but I couldn't say for sure whether my wife
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ever got this mail, but it is possible she could have." Oswald was told
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that an attorney offered to assist him, and he answered, "I don't
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particularly want him, but I will take him if I can't do any better, and
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will contact him at a later date. . . . I have been a student of Marxism
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since the age of 14. . . . American people will soon forget the President
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was shot, but I didn't shoot him. . . . Since the President was killed,
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someone else would take his place, perhaps Vice-President Johnson. His
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views about Cuba would probably be largely the same as those of President
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Kennedy. . . . I never lived on Neely Street. These people are mistaken
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about visiting there, because I never lived there. . . . It might not be
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proper to answer further questions, because what I say might be construed
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in a different light than what I actually meant it to be. . . . When the
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head of any government dies, or is killed, there is always a second in
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command who would take over. . . . I did not kill President Kennedy or
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Officer Tippit. If you want me to cop out to hitting or pleading guilty
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to hitting a cop in the mouth when I was arrested, yeah, I plead guilty to
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that. But I do deny shooting both the President and Tippit."
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11:10 A.M. Preparation for Oswald's Transfer to County Jail
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"I would like to have a shirt from clothing that was brought to the
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office to wear over the T-shirt I am wearing. . . . I prefer wearing a
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black Ivy League-type shirt, which might be a little warmer. I don't want
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a hat. . . . I will just take one of those sweaters, the black one."
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11:15 A.M. Inspector Thomas J. Kelley, U.S. Secret Service, Has Final
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Conversation with Lee Harvey Oswald
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Kelley approached Oswald, out of the hearing of others, except perhaps
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Captain Fritz's men, and said that as a Secret Service agent, he was
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anxious to talk with him as soon as he secured counsel, because Oswald was
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charged with the assassination of the President but had denied it. Oswald
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said, "I will be glad to discuss this proposition with my attorney, and
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that after I talk with one, we could either discuss it with him or discuss
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it with my attorney, if the attorney thinks it is a wise thing to do, but
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at the present time I have nothing more to say to you."
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11:21 A.M. Lee Harvey Oswald Was Fatally Wounded by Jack Ruby
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daveus rattus
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yer friendly neighborhood ratman
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KOYAANISQATSI
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ko.yan.nis.qatsi (from the Hopi Language) n. 1. crazy life. 2. life
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in turmoil. 3. life out of balance. 4. life disintegrating.
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5. a state of life that calls for another way of living.
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