mirror of
https://github.com/nhammer514/textfiles-politics.git
synced 2024-10-01 01:15:38 -04:00
510 lines
26 KiB
Plaintext
510 lines
26 KiB
Plaintext
|
|
JPFO SPECIAL REPORT
|
|
|
|
DIAL 911 AND DIE!
|
|
|
|
By Aaron Zelman and Jay Simkin, JFPO
|
|
|
|
Copyright 1992 by Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership
|
|
|
|
|
|
THE BAD NEWS: YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN..... Most Americans believe that their
|
|
local police have a duty in law to protect them against criminals. They
|
|
are wrong.Some of them are dead wrong. And some of those who are dead
|
|
wrong are dead because they have been duped by ignorant or dishonest
|
|
politicians or police chiefs, who promise protection that they cannot give.
|
|
Some of these officials know that they have no legal duty to protect the
|
|
average person, and yet still support disarming law-abiding people, the
|
|
better "to protect" them from criminals!
|
|
Front-line police officers sometimes are verbally abused by victims of
|
|
criminals who wrongly believe that police officers have a duty to protect
|
|
the law-abiding. These good citizens blame the police officer for not
|
|
doing a job for which they have never been responsible: protecting the
|
|
average person against criminals.
|
|
|
|
THE POLICE: WE SERVE EVERYONE, BUT NO ONE IN PARTICULAR.....U.S. law is
|
|
based on English common law. In English common law, "the Sheriff" is a
|
|
government employee whose main job is enforcement of government decisions:
|
|
Seizure of property, arrest of persons wanted by the authorities,
|
|
collection of taxes, etc. Maintenance of public order, a secondary duty,
|
|
was done to the extent resources allowed.
|
|
|
|
POLICE PROTECTION = POLICE STATE.....It is obvious -- 500 years ago in
|
|
England and in America now -- that a sheriff could not be everywhere at
|
|
once. It was -- and is -- equally clear that to protect every person would
|
|
require an army of Sheriffs (or sheriff's deputies).
|
|
Maintaining an Army of police officers - in effect a police state -
|
|
would nullify the Freedoms set forth in the Bill of Rights. Neither the
|
|
Framers of the Constitution - nor their successors - wanted to avoid the
|
|
risk of harm to some in individuals arising from criminals' activity by
|
|
creating a police state that inevitably would harm every individual.
|
|
|
|
POLICE STATE OR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS.....Instead, the Framers provided
|
|
for a judicial system to deal with criminals, persons who abused the
|
|
Freedoms provided by the Constitution. The Framers assumed that a law-
|
|
abiding person would largely be responsible for their safety. As a matter
|
|
of law, that assumption still is valid.
|
|
|
|
THE GOOD NEWS: THE SECOND AMENDMENT PRESUMES INDIVIDUAL OWNERSHIP OF
|
|
ARMS.....
|
|
The Second Amendment reads: "A well-regulated Militia, being necessary
|
|
to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear
|
|
Arms, shall not be infringed."
|
|
It is based on individual ownership of arms. Generally, the Framers
|
|
avoided stating the obvious. So, they did not word the amendment, "A
|
|
well...State, the right of EVERY PERSON...infringed." That is, the Framers
|
|
assumed that every person would look out after his own security, and of
|
|
necessity would be armed. They saw no need to state so obvious a truth.
|
|
|
|
THE MILITIA: ARMED PERSONS ASSEMBLED FOR LAWFUL PURPOSES.....Rather, the
|
|
Framers wanted to emphasize what they felt would be unobvious: that armed
|
|
individuals may lawfully assemble to use their Arms only to defend the
|
|
State based on the U.S. Constitution (but not to overturn the
|
|
Constitution). This is, perhaps, why the words Militia, State, and Arms
|
|
are capitalized.
|
|
When armed individuals gather for lawful purposes - e.g., the defense
|
|
of the Constitution - they are "the Militia". A 20th Century derivative of
|
|
"the Militia" is the National Guard, which has existed since 1901. It is
|
|
an arm of the Federal Government:
|
|
|
|
|
|
"Since 1933, all persons who have enlisted in a state
|
|
National Guard unit have simultaneously enlisted in the
|
|
National Guard of the United States. In the latter
|
|
capacity, they have become a part of the Enlisted
|
|
Reserve Corps of the Army, but unless and until ordered
|
|
to active duty in the Army, they retained their status
|
|
as members of a separate state Guard unit." [Perpich
|
|
v. Department of Defense, U.S. Supreme Court, No. 89-
|
|
542, (1990) L Ed 2d 312].
|
|
|
|
Thus, the National Guard exists to enforce government policy. It is
|
|
not THE "Militia", but A "militia". U.S. Law states that a "State may
|
|
provide and maintain at its own expense a defense force that is exempt from
|
|
being drafted into the Armed Forces of the United States". [32 U.S.C. Sec.
|
|
109(C)]. Nonetheless, no state now does so. If the Federal authorities
|
|
used the Army or National Guard to change the Constitutional order - or a
|
|
State governor so abused a state militia - a disarmed citizenry would be
|
|
helpless. The Framers did not want this. Generations of their successors
|
|
have agreed.
|
|
As a result, the Framers wanted the wording of the Second Amendment to
|
|
make it clear that armed individuals could gather together for specific
|
|
purposes, e.g., defense of the Constitution and the Liberties it proclaims.
|
|
|
|
UNCONTROLLED CRIMINALS SUBVERT THE CONSTITUTION.....The Framers felt no
|
|
need to state that individuals would use arms to defend themselves against
|
|
whom the government never promised to provide, and indeed, never has had an
|
|
obligation to provide. It is only the failure of the government to control
|
|
criminals in recent decades that has called into question the validity of
|
|
the individual right to own arms for the essential purpose of defending the
|
|
Constitution. This is as much an individual duty as is personal self-
|
|
defense.
|
|
|
|
THE LAW: THE POLICE ARE NOT THERE FOR *YOU*.....State and city governments
|
|
- rather than the Federal authorities - are responsible for local law
|
|
enforcement. So, only occasionally have Federal Courts ruled on the matter
|
|
of police protection.
|
|
However, in 1856 the U.S. Supreme Court declared that local law
|
|
enforcement had no duty to protect a particular person, but only a general
|
|
duty to enforce the laws. [South v. Maryland, 59 U.S. (HOW) 396,15 L.Ed.,
|
|
433 (1856)].
|
|
The Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution gives you no right
|
|
to police protection. In 1982, the U.S. Court of Appeals, Seventh Circuit,
|
|
held that:
|
|
|
|
"...there is no constitutional right to be protected by
|
|
the state against being murdered by criminals or
|
|
madmen. It is monstrous if the state fails to protect
|
|
its residents against such predators but it does not
|
|
violate the due process clause of the Fourteenth
|
|
Amendment or, we suppose, any other provision of the
|
|
Constitution. The Constitution is a charter of
|
|
negative liberties: it tells the state to let people
|
|
alone; it does not require the federal government or
|
|
the state to provide services, even so elementary a
|
|
service as maintaining law and order." [Bowers v.
|
|
DeVito, U.S. Court of Appeals, Seventh Circuit, 686F.2d
|
|
616 (1882) See also Reiff v. City of Philadelphia,
|
|
477F.Supp.1262 (E.D.Pa. 1979)].
|
|
|
|
There are a few, very narrow exceptions. in 1983, the District of
|
|
Columbia Court of Appeals remarked that:
|
|
|
|
"In a civilized society, every citizen at least tacitly
|
|
relies upon the constable for protection from crime.
|
|
Hence, more than general reliance is needed to require
|
|
the police to act on behalf of a particular individual.
|
|
...Liability is established, therefore, if the police
|
|
have specifically undertaken to protect a particular
|
|
individual and the individual has specifically relied
|
|
upon the undertaking. ...Absent a special
|
|
relationship, therefore, the police may not be held
|
|
liable for failure to protect a particular individual
|
|
from harm caused by criminal conduct. A special
|
|
relationship exists if the police employ an individual
|
|
in aid of law enforcement, but does not exist merely
|
|
because an individual requests, or a police officer
|
|
promises to provide protection." [Morgan v. District of
|
|
Columbia, 468 A2d 1306 (D.C. App. 1983)].
|
|
|
|
As a result, the government - specifically, police forces - has no
|
|
legal duty to help any given person, even one whose life is in imminent
|
|
peril. The only exceptions are a person who:
|
|
|
|
* Has helped the police force (e.g., as an informant or
|
|
as a witness).
|
|
|
|
* Can prove that they have specifically been promised
|
|
protection and has, as a result, done things that they
|
|
otherwise would not have done.
|
|
|
|
RELY ON THE POLICE: AND PAY HEAVILY.....Even someone repeatedly threatened
|
|
by another has no entitlement to police protection until they have been
|
|
physically harmed. In 1959, Linda Riss, a New Yorker, was terrorized by an
|
|
ex-boyfriend, who had a criminal record. Over several months, he
|
|
repeatedly threatened her: "If I can't have you, no one else will have you,
|
|
and when I get through with you, no one else will want you." She
|
|
repeatedly sought police protection, explaining her request in detail.
|
|
Nothing was done to protect her.
|
|
When he threatened her with immediate attack, she again urgently
|
|
begged the New York City Police Department for help: "Completely
|
|
distraught, she called the police, begging for help, but was refused." The
|
|
next day, she was attacked" A "thug" hired by her persecutor threw lye
|
|
(sodium hydroxide) in her face. She was blinded in one eye and her face
|
|
was permanently scarred.
|
|
The Court of Appeals of New York ruled that Linda Riss has no right to
|
|
protection. The Court refused to create such a right because that would
|
|
impose a crushing economic burden on the government. Only the legislature
|
|
could create a right to protection:
|
|
|
|
"The amount of protection that may be provided is
|
|
limited by the resources of the community and by a
|
|
considered legislative-executive decision as to how
|
|
these resources may be deployed. For the courts to
|
|
proclaim a new and general duty of protection ...even
|
|
to those who may be the particular seekers of
|
|
protection based on specific hazards, could and would
|
|
inevitably determine how the limited police resources
|
|
of the community should be allocated and without
|
|
predictable limits."
|
|
|
|
Judge Keating dissented, bitterly noting that Linda Riss was
|
|
victimized not only because she had relied on the police to protect her,
|
|
but because she obeyed New York laws that forbade her to own a weapon.
|
|
Judge Keating wrote:
|
|
|
|
"What makes the city's position particularly difficult to understand
|
|
is that, in conformity to the dictates of the law, Linda did not carry any
|
|
weapon for self-defense. Thus, by a rather bitter irony she was required
|
|
to rely for protection on the City of New York, which now denies all
|
|
responsibility to her." [Riss v. City of New York, 293 N.Y. 2d 897
|
|
(1968)].
|
|
|
|
CALIFORNIA: AN IMMINENT DEATH THREAT MEANS NOTHING.....Even a person whose
|
|
life is imminently in peril is not entitled to help. On 4 September 1972
|
|
Ruth Bunnell called the San Jose (California) police department to report
|
|
that her estranged husband, Mack Bunnell, had telephoned her to tell her
|
|
that he was coming over to her house to kill her.
|
|
In the previous year, the San Jose police, "had made at least 20 calls
|
|
and responses to Mrs. Bunnell's home...allegedly related to complaints of
|
|
violent acts committed by Mack Bunnell on Mrs. Bunnell and her two
|
|
daughters."
|
|
|
|
Even so, Ruth Bunnell was told to call back only when Mack Bunnell arrived.
|
|
Some 45 minutes later, Mack Bunnell arrived and stabbed Ruth Bunnell
|
|
to death. A neighbor called the police, who then came to the murder scene.
|
|
The California Court of Appeals held that any claim against the police
|
|
department:
|
|
|
|
"...is barred by the provisions of the California Tort
|
|
Claims Act, particularly Section 845, which states:
|
|
`Neither a public entity nor a public employee is
|
|
liable for failure to establish a police department or
|
|
otherwise provide police protection or, if police
|
|
protection service is provided, for failure to provide
|
|
sufficient police protection." [Hartzler v. City of
|
|
San Jose, App., 120 Cal.Rptr 5 (1975)].
|
|
|
|
WASHINGTON, D.C.: RAPE IS NO CAUSE FOR CONCERN.....If direct peril to life
|
|
does not entitle one to police protection, clearly imminent peril of rape
|
|
merits no concern.
|
|
Carolyn Warren, of Washington, D.C., called the police on 16 March
|
|
1975: tow intruders had smashed the back door to her house and had attacked
|
|
a female house-mate. After calling the police, Warren and another house-
|
|
mate took refuge on a lower back roof of the building. The police went to
|
|
the front door and knocked. Warren, afraid to go downstairs, could not
|
|
answer. The police officers left without checking the back door.
|
|
Warren again called the police and was told that they would respond.
|
|
Assuming they had returned, Warren called out to the house-mate, thus
|
|
revealing her own location.
|
|
The two intruders then rounded up all three women. "For the next
|
|
fourteen hours the women were held captive, raped, robbed, beaten, forced
|
|
to commit sexual acts upon each other, and made to submit to the sexual
|
|
demands of (the intruders - ed.)
|
|
The Superior Court of the District of Columbia held that:
|
|
|
|
"...the fundamental principle (is -ed.) that a
|
|
government and its agents are under no general duty to
|
|
provide public services, such as police protection, to
|
|
any particular individual citizen...The duty to provide
|
|
public services is owed to the public at large, and,
|
|
absent a special relationship between the police and an
|
|
individual, no special legal duty exists."
|
|
|
|
In an accompanying memorandum, the Court explained that the term
|
|
"special relationship" did not mean an oral promise to respond to a call
|
|
for help. Rather, it involved the provision of help to the police force.
|
|
[Warren v. District of Columbia, D.C. App., 444 A.2d 1 (1981)].
|
|
|
|
ILLINOIS: SCHOOL TEACHERS GET NO HELP EITHER.....On 20 April 1961,
|
|
Josephine M. Keane, a teacher in the Chicago City Public Schools was
|
|
assaulted and killed on school premises by a student enrolled in the
|
|
school. Keane's family sued the City of Chicago, claiming that:
|
|
|
|
"...the City was negligent in failing to assign police
|
|
protection to the school, although it knew or should
|
|
have known that failure to provide this protection
|
|
would result in harm to persons lawfully on the
|
|
premises (because) it knew or should have known of the
|
|
dangerous condition then existing at the school."
|
|
|
|
The Appeals Court affirmed the judgment of the Circuit Court of Cook
|
|
County. Presiding Justice Burke of the Appeals Court held that, "Failure
|
|
on the part of a municipality to exercise a government function does not,
|
|
without more, expose the municipality to liability." Justice Burke went on
|
|
to say that:
|
|
|
|
"To hold that under the circumstances alleged in the
|
|
complaint the City owed a `special duty' to Mrs. Keane
|
|
for the safety and well-being of her person would
|
|
impose an all but impossible burden upon the City,
|
|
considering the numerous police, fire, housing and
|
|
other laws, ordinances and regulations in force."
|
|
[Keane v. City of Chicago, 98 Ill App2d 460 (1968)].
|
|
|
|
NORTH CAROLINA: HELPLESS CHILDREN DON'T COUNT.....Even defenseless
|
|
children merit no special care. On 3 June 1985 police tried top arrest a
|
|
man and his "girl friend", both of whom were wanted on multiple murder
|
|
charges, and who were known to be heavily armed.
|
|
The alleged murderers - along with the "girl friend's" two sons, aged
|
|
nine and ten years, - tried to flee in a car. As the police closed in
|
|
after a running shoot-out, the children were poisoned with cyanide and then
|
|
shot in the head either by the mother or her "boy friend", one of whom then
|
|
blew up the vehicle, killing both. The boy's father - who had filed for
|
|
divorce -sued the law enforcement agencies and officers for "wrongful
|
|
death" of his sons. The North Carolina Court of Appeals held that:
|
|
|
|
"...the defendant law enforcement agencies and officers
|
|
did not owe them (the children - ed.) any legal duty of
|
|
care, the breach of which caused their injury and
|
|
death...Our law is that in the absence of a special
|
|
relationship, such as exists when a victim is in
|
|
custody or the police have promised to protect a
|
|
particular person, law enforcement agencies and
|
|
personnel have no duty to protect individuals from the
|
|
criminal acts of others; instead their duty is to
|
|
preserve the peace and arrest law breakers for the
|
|
protection of the general public. In this instance, a
|
|
special relationship of the type stated did not
|
|
exist....Plaintiff's argument that the children's
|
|
presence required defendants to delay (the) arrest
|
|
until the children were elsewhere is incompatible with
|
|
the duty that the law has long placed on law
|
|
enforcement personnel to make the safety of the public
|
|
their first concern; for permitting dangerous criminals
|
|
to go unapprehended lest particular individuals be
|
|
injured or killed would inevitably and necessarily
|
|
endanger the public at large, a policy that the law
|
|
cannot tolerate, much less foster." [Lynch v. N.C.
|
|
Dept. of Justice, 376 S.E. 2nd 247 (N.C. App. 1989)].
|
|
|
|
VIRGINIA: WRONGFUL RELEASE = WRONGFUL DEATH? WRONG!.....Marvin Munday
|
|
murdered Jack Marshall in Virginia. Mundy - convicted for carrying a
|
|
concealed pistol - was sent to jail by a judge who expressed concern that
|
|
Munday, "might kill himself or a member of the public". Munday was
|
|
mistakenly released from jail 8 days later. Nine days later he was re-
|
|
arrested on a unrelated charge. Five hours later, the same jailer and
|
|
sheriff released him, apparently without checking to see if that was
|
|
proper. Three weeks later, Mundy robbed and murdered Marshall. Marshall's
|
|
widow sued, alleging negligence on the part of the sheriff and jailer,
|
|
asserting a violation of Jack Marshall's right to due process. The Court
|
|
rejected the claim:
|
|
|
|
"....a distinction must be drawn between a public duty
|
|
owed by the officials to the citizenry at large and a
|
|
special duty owned to a specific identifiable person or
|
|
class of persons.....Only a violation of the latter
|
|
duty will give rise to civil liability of the
|
|
official....to hold a public official civilly liable
|
|
for violating a duty owed to the public at large would
|
|
subject the official to potential liability for every
|
|
action he undertook and would not be in society's best
|
|
interest.".....no special relationship existed that
|
|
would create a common law duty on the defendants to
|
|
protect the decedent (Marshall - ed.) from Mundy's
|
|
criminal acts. Similarly, without a special
|
|
relationship between the defendants and the decedent,
|
|
no constitutional duty can arise under the Due Process
|
|
Clause as codified by 42 U.S.C. Sec. 1983. Therefore,
|
|
plaintiff's (Mrs. Marshall - ed.) due process claim
|
|
also must fall." [Marshall v. Winston, 389 S.E.2nd 902
|
|
(Va. 1990)].
|
|
|
|
|
|
THE BOTTOM LINE: YOUR LIFE IS IN YOUR OWN HANDS.....These cases - and
|
|
there are many others - show clearly that under U.S. law:
|
|
|
|
* No individual has a right to police protection, even
|
|
when life is in clear and immediate peril;
|
|
|
|
* There is no right to police protection simply because
|
|
there are not enough police resources available to
|
|
enable every person who feels threatened to be
|
|
protected;
|
|
|
|
* To make police officers answerable to individual
|
|
citizens for a failure to provide protection would make
|
|
police officers afraid to do anything for fear that an
|
|
action - or inaction - would expose them to civil
|
|
liability.
|
|
|
|
This is unavoidable:
|
|
|
|
* Life is risky;
|
|
|
|
* The police cannot be everywhere at once;
|
|
|
|
* It is impossible to hire enough police officers to
|
|
protect every person who needs it or thinks they needs
|
|
it.
|
|
|
|
No one can or should rely on the local police force to defend him or
|
|
herself, even against a specific threat coming from a known source. Each
|
|
of us is responsible for ensuring his or her personal safety. Anyone who
|
|
says "You don't need a gun, the police will protect you", at best is mis-
|
|
informed, and at worst is simply lying. To offer such advise suggests that
|
|
police have a duty to provide protection and usually will provide it. The
|
|
police have no such duty. And, while police may try hard to provide
|
|
protection - and a failure to do so can be castrophobic - there is no legal
|
|
recourse for a person harmed by that failure.
|
|
|
|
WHAT WE NEED LEAST: GUN BANS AND WAITING PERIODS....."Gun Control" is
|
|
founded on a total misunderstanding of the role of police in our society.
|
|
"Gun control" advocates presuppose the police have a duty to protect every
|
|
individual. But, as proved above, the police never had this duty, and
|
|
indeed, cannot have it so long as the Constitution remains in force.
|
|
Therefore, bans on gun ownership - or imposition of a waiting period
|
|
before a gun may be purchased - simply give an attacker a legally-protected
|
|
Window of Opportunity to do you harm. Moreover, "gun control" makes the
|
|
law-abiding person less able and willing to take responsibility for their
|
|
own defense. We will never eliminate criminals. But we must do far more
|
|
to curb them. That is what the Constitution requires.
|
|
Many police forces are under-strength. But it is quite clear that to
|
|
enable the police to defend each and everyone of us , would require us to
|
|
set up here a police state that makes Joe Stalin's Russia look like a "Love
|
|
Boat" cruise ship. That is not the lesser of two evils - i.e., better than
|
|
letting criminals run free - it is the greater.
|
|
|
|
WHAT WE NEED MOST: NATION-WIDE CONCEALED CARRY.....A law-abiding person's
|
|
security - as a matter of Law and a matter of Fact - is in their own hands.
|
|
Even if we had effective criminal control - and we are far from that happy
|
|
state of affairs - each law-abiding person would still be responsible for
|
|
their own safety.
|
|
Any law-abiding person should be able legally to carry firearms,
|
|
concealed, as this is the best way to enable such persons to protect
|
|
themselves. It is a potent deterrent: the criminal would not know who was,
|
|
and who wasn't, armed. It would enable a person who had been threatened -
|
|
and was not entitled to police protection - to have at hand the means to
|
|
protect themselves.
|
|
|
|
THE FUTURE: NO MORE KILLEEN MASSACRES.....Concealed carry is not a
|
|
panacea. A criminal would always have the advantage of the first shot. But
|
|
if the intended victim(s) were lawfully entitled to carry a concealed
|
|
firearm, the criminal's first shot could be their last. If concealed carry
|
|
of a firearms were Federal Law, massacres such as occurred in Killeen,
|
|
Texas, would almost certainly become a thing of the past. The criminal
|
|
would be killed, quickly, by one of the intended victims.
|
|
Licensing is not needed, simply because criminals now carry concealed
|
|
weapons at will. Licensing would only affect the 99+% of Americans who own
|
|
firearms, and who do not abuse them. What purpose is served by the costly
|
|
building of huge files on law-abiding people? Moreover, is not the
|
|
presumption in U.S. Law that a person is presumed innocent until proven
|
|
guilty?
|
|
It is better that we enact and strictly enforce harsh penalties for
|
|
concealed carry by those legally debarred from firearms ownership - persons
|
|
with criminal records of violence - the more so if commission of a crime
|
|
were involved.
|
|
|
|
LIFE OR DEATH: ITS' UP TO YOU.....Wise-up those who back "gun control" --
|
|
Federal, State, and local law-makers. law-enforcement chiefs, prosecutors,
|
|
and Media personalities -- that the police have no duty to protect you.
|
|
Let them know that their support for "gun control" puts your life at risk.
|
|
Send them a copy of this Special Report. Urge them to ditch "gun control"
|
|
and to lobby urgently for nation-wide concealed carry. Your life depends
|
|
on it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
* * * * * * *
|
|
|
|
A one-hour VHS video tape of "Dial 911 and Die", taped from "Cooper's
|
|
Corner", a community-orientated program from Highland Park, Illinois,
|
|
featuring Jay Simkin is available from:
|
|
|
|
Mr. Aaron Zelman,
|
|
Jews For the Preservation of Firearms Ownership,
|
|
2872 So. Wentworth Avenue,
|
|
Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 53207
|
|
|
|
Telephone (414) 769 0760
|
|
|
|
Please enclose (check or money order) $14.95 for the
|
|
tape, and $3.50 handling and shipping.
|
|
|
|
"Cooper's Corner" is not associated with Colonel Jeff
|
|
Cooper in any way. Cooper's Corner features Mr.
|
|
Kenneth Cooper of Highland Park, Illinois.
|
|
|
|
A condensed version of this "Special Report" will
|
|
appear in the July issue of "GUNS & AMMO" magazine,
|
|
scheduled for a June release.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Composed and uploaded as a public service
|
|
|
|
For the JFPO
|
|
|
|
by
|
|
|
|
George Wm. Everitt, Editor,
|
|
|
|
TheIllinoisShooter,
|
|
|
|
Official publication of the
|
|
|
|
Illinois State Rifle Association.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
X-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-X
|
|
|
|
Another file downloaded from: NIRVANAnet(tm)
|
|
|
|
& the Temple of the Screaming Electron Jeff Hunter 510-935-5845
|
|
Salted Slug Systems Strange 408-454-9368
|
|
Burn This Flag Zardoz 408-363-9766
|
|
realitycheck Poindexter Fortran 415-567-7043
|
|
Lies Unlimited Mick Freen 415-583-4102
|
|
Tomorrow's 0rder of Magnitude Finger_Man 415-961-9315
|
|
My Dog Bit Jesus Suzanne D'Fault 510-658-8078
|
|
|
|
Specializing in conversations, obscure information, high explosives,
|
|
arcane knowledge, political extremism, diversive sexuality,
|
|
insane speculation, and wild rumours. ALL-TEXT BBS SYSTEMS.
|
|
|
|
Full access for first-time callers. We don't want to know who you are,
|
|
where you live, or what your phone number is. We are not Big Brother.
|
|
|
|
"Raw Data for Raw Nerves"
|
|
|
|
X-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-X
|