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<ent type='ORG'>WBAI</ent> Pacifica Radio <ent type='GPE'>New York</ent>
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Interview with <ent type='PERSON'>Mark Swaney</ent>
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By: Paul DeRienzo.</p>
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<div>--------------------------------</div>
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<p><ent type='ORG'>WBAI</ent> radio interview with <ent type='PERSON'>Mark Swaney</ent> from "Faithful <ent type='GPE'>Arkansas</ent>"
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a citizens group, speaking of <ent type='PERSON'>Bill Clinton</ent>'s and <ent type='PERSON'>George Bush</ent>'s
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connection with the <ent type='ORG'>CIA</ent> covert drug smuggling operation in
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<ent type='PERSON'>Mena</ent> <ent type='GPE'>Arkansas</ent> in support of the <ent type='NORP'>Contras</ent>.
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MARK SWANEY:
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. . . . [they] set up a front company in <ent type='GPE'>Guadalahara Mexico</ent>.
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The purpose of which, he was told, was to smuggle weapons to
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the <ent type='ORG'>Contra</ent>'s in <ent type='LOC'>Central America</ent>. And he was to be the front man
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-- he was to provide the front cover for this company, but he
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was given to know that behind the scenes they [the <ent type='ORG'>CIA</ent>] would
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be using this company to smuggle weapons. So he was ok with
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that and he went down to Guadalahara and was down there until
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the summer of '87 --actually the plane was shot down in '86
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so this operation in <ent type='GPE'>Mexico</ent> continued for a year after the
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<ent type='GPE'>Iran</ent>-<ent type='ORG'>Contra</ent> story was breaking and that's something that a
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lot of people don't know --they think that <ent type='GPE'>Iran</ent>-<ent type='ORG'>Contra</ent>/<ent type='ORG'>Contra</ent>
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Resupply stopped when the revelations were made in '86, but
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they actually continued.
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Anyway in the summer of '87, even as the hearings were going
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on in <ent type='ORG'>Congress</ent>, <ent type='PERSON'>Terry Reed</ent> began to suspect they were using
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his front company for something other than smuggling weapons.
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And one day he was looking for a lathe in one of his warehouses
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by the airport there in Guadalahara and he went in and opened
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up an air freight shipping container (which are very large,
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they're about 28 feet long, 7 feet high, 8 feet wide), and he
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found it packed full of <ent type='ORG'>Cocaine</ent> when he opened it up. He immediately
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realized he was in a very precarious situation because he was
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the only one on paper who had anything to do with that company,
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and if they had ever gotten caught -- there was nobody to stand
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up and say well this guy didn't know anything -- he was going
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to be a <ent type='PERSON'>patsy</ent> if anything went wrong. So he decided he wasn't
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going to play the part of the <ent type='PERSON'>patsy</ent>. The man who was his contact
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man for the <ent type='ORG'>CIA</ent> in <ent type='GPE'>Mexico</ent> was <ent type='PERSON'>Felix Rodrigez</ent>. So he confronted
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<ent type='PERSON'>Felix Rodrigez</ent> and said well listen I didn't bargain on getting
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into Narcotics smuggling and I'm outa this all together guys
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-- I'm leaving now -- I refuse to have anything further to do
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with this. And <ent type='PERSON'>Felix Rodrigez</ent> said ok fine if you want to be
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out your out. Now before he was able to return even to Little
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Rock <ent type='GPE'>Arkansas</ent> where his home was at the time, Governor <ent type='PERSON'>Clinton</ent>'s
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Chief of Security, a man named <ent type='PERSON'>Raymond Buddy Young</ent>, and
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another man <ent type='PERSON'>Tommy Baker</ent>, <ent type='ORG'>Private Investigator</ent> and I'm told
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former member of the <ent type='GPE'>Arkansas</ent> State Police, were framing
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<ent type='PERSON'>Terry Reid</ent> for mail fraud. What this involved was the so
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called project donation that Oliver <ent type='PERSON'>North</ent> had set up. Terry
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Reid's plane had been stolen a number of years earlier
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-- and used in drug missions and such without his knowledge
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-- and he claimed the insurance money for his plane being stolen
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-- and so to set him up what they did was took the airplane
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and put it back in his hangar before he got back to <ent type='GPE'>Arkansas</ent>.
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Governor <ent type='PERSON'>Clinton</ent>'s Chief of Security just supposedly happened
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--and this is what he tells the press -- he say's "one day I
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just happened to be walking by this hangar, and the wind just
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happened to blow the door open and I just happened to look in
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and see this airplane that was stolen four years earlier in
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another state and I realized -that was the plane." And so this
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is how the case got started.
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PAUL DeRIENZO:
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How would he have known that was the plane?
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MARK SWANEY: </p>
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<p>Oh that's never been explained. Along with a number of aspects
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in this famous story. We're in contact with <ent type='PERSON'>Terry Reid</ent>'s defense
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attorney in <ent type='PERSON'>Witchita</ent> and she's promised to send us all of the
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documents --we have some of the documents already that indicate
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--he was found not guilty --well he never went to trial.
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PAUL DeRIENZO:</p>
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<p>Is that the same <ent type='ORG'>Buddy Young</ent> by the way who's head of Governor
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<ent type='PERSON'>Clinton</ent>'s security detail.
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MARK SWANEY:</p>
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<p>Yes he is.
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PAUL DeRIENZO:
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<ent type='ORG'>Buddy Young</ent>, let's keep his name in mind because I want to come
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back to him. Let's jump now to the sight in <ent type='GPE'>Arkansas</ent> that was
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used as the landing sight, the airport in <ent type='GPE'>Arkansas</ent> in the town
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of <ent type='PERSON'>Mena</ent> <ent type='GPE'>Arkansas</ent> --that was determinates of a lot of these
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<ent type='GPE'>Iran</ent>-<ent type='ORG'>Contra</ent> resupply flights.
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MARK SWANEY:</p>
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<p>Yes, in fact <ent type='PERSON'>Terry Reid</ent> has stated in that same article that
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you have that it was the *hub* of the <ent type='ORG'>Contra</ent> resupply effort.
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Many people are not aware that <ent type='GPE'>Arkansas</ent> was very heavily and
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very deeply involved in the <ent type='GPE'>Iran</ent>-<ent type='ORG'>Contra</ent> affair all during the
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time that Governor <ent type='PERSON'>Clinton</ent> ???? Governor of the state.
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And there were numerous stories written about it in the press.
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Well the story about <ent type='PERSON'>Mena</ent> is that <ent type='PERSON'>Mena</ent> is a very small town
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in the middle of the the Washitah (sp) mountains in Southwestern
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<ent type='GPE'>Arkansas</ent> and not coincidentally it happens to be in <ent type='ORG'>Congress</ent>man
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<ent type='PERSON'>John Paul Hammerschmidt</ent>'s district, the Third <ent type='ORG'>Congress</ent>ional
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district. <ent type='PERSON'>John Paul Hammerschmidt</ent> just happens to be one
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of <ent type='PERSON'>George Bush</ent>'s very closest friend's. He was <ent type='PERSON'>George Bush</ent>'s
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Presidential Campaign Manager for <ent type='PERSON'>Bush</ent>'s campaign in '76 and
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again in 1980. The two people are very close. Anyway <ent type='PERSON'>Mena</ent>
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has an airport and it looks from the outside like an ordinary,
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normal airport. The thing that separates <ent type='PERSON'>Mena</ent>'s airport from
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any other is the fact that there are row upon row of hangars
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--buildings which house aircraft refitting facilities. Now
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aircraft refitting is an industry that is in demand by two
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principal paying customers. One of them is the <ent type='ORG'>CIA</ent>, and the
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other one are drug smugglers. And the reason is, is because if
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you're a <ent type='ORG'>CIA</ent> guy and you're going to do covert actions overseas
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-- they're almost entirely relying on air transport of some kind.
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Particularly if you're going to covertly resupply an army that's
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over a thousand miles away.
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PAUL DeRIENZO:
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Hassenfusse's plane was based there.
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MARK SWANEY: </p>
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<p>Pardon me.
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PAUL DeRIENZO:
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Hassenfusse's plane, the plane that was shot down, was based
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in <ent type='PERSON'>Mena</ent> <ent type='GPE'>Arkansas</ent>.
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MARK SWANEY:</p>
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<p>That plane was based there formally before <ent type='PERSON'>Barry Seal</ent> was
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murdered just a few months before it was shot down. That
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was <ent type='PERSON'>Barry Seal</ent>'s own personal airplane. But anyway what
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you need to do, if you're a <ent type='ORG'>CIA</ent> or a drug smuggler is you
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need an airplane that can do things that normally airplanes
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of the civilian variety are not allowed to do. Things like
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have cargo doors that open to the inside of the airplane so
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that you can make in-flight drops - so that you can drop
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things out of the airplane while it's flying -- which is
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illegal on a commercial or civilian type of aircraft. You
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need to do things like install advanced navigational equipment
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sometimes even ??? You need things like roller matts to put
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down on the floor so that you can roll the crates forward
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in the fuselage of the airplane to kick them out. You need
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to be able to modify a civilian aircraft that is not legally
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allowed to have such capability so that it does have those
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capabilities.
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PAUL DeRIENZO:
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And this was done in <ent type='PERSON'>Mena</ent> -- a smalltown airport.
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MARK SWANEY:
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Right. Now <ent type='PERSON'>Mena</ent> has the second or third largest --I don't
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know which, but one of the largest aircraft refitting
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facilities in <ent type='GPE'>the United States</ent>. And as such it was --long
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before the <ent type='ORG'>Nicaruguan</ent> episode happened, it was a base of <ent type='ORG'>CIA</ent>
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covert operation and remains to this very minute a base of
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<ent type='ORG'>CIA</ent> covert operation.
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PAUL DeRIENZO:
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Let's jump to another name that comes up in this -- a fella
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by the name of <ent type='PERSON'><ent type='PERSON'>Larry</ent> <ent type='PERSON'>Nichols</ent></ent>, former employee of the state
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of <ent type='GPE'>Arkansas</ent>. He was a employee of the <ent type='GPE'>Arkansas</ent> Development
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and Finance Authority now I have an Associated Press article
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that came out just a couple of days ago that <ent type='PERSON'><ent type='PERSON'>Larry</ent> <ent type='PERSON'>Nichols</ent></ent>
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has dropped a lawsuit that he had instituted in 1990 against
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Governor <ent type='PERSON'>Clinton</ent> that came after his 1988 dismissal from that
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state job for miss-use of agency telephones.</p>
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<p>Can you tell us who <ent type='PERSON'><ent type='PERSON'>Larry</ent> <ent type='PERSON'>Nichols</ent></ent> was.
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MARK SWANEY:
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Yeah this is probably the most interesting part of the story
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-- you see <ent type='PERSON'><ent type='PERSON'>Larry</ent> <ent type='PERSON'>Nichols</ent></ent> is the source of all these rumors
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and the <ent type='PERSON'>Jennifer Flowers</ent> thing and the Governor's sex life.
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The story that the press has yet not picked up on is the
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fact that <ent type='PERSON'><ent type='PERSON'>Larry</ent> <ent type='PERSON'>Nichols</ent></ent> was a big time <ent type='ORG'>Contra</ent> supporter.
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He has close connections to <ent type='PERSON'>Mario Collero</ent>, <ent type='PERSON'>Adolpho Collero</ent>
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and <ent type='PERSON'>Jack Singlove</ent>. In fact he served with General Singlove
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in <ent type='GPE'>Vietnam</ent>. He spent the first half of the decade working
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for the <ent type='NORP'>Contras</ent> in a connection with an organization that
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General Singlove had. He spent time with the <ent type='ORG'>Contra</ent>'s on the
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ground in <ent type='GPE'>Honduras</ent>. His job was to collect military information.
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Now I've met with <ent type='PERSON'><ent type='PERSON'>Larry</ent> <ent type='PERSON'>Nichols</ent></ent> -- this information that I'm
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about to give you he has told me directly. And we have checked
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out a great deal of what he's told us and everything that he
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has told us has checked out totally accurate.
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PAUL DeRIENZO:
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So what we're seeing here is a connection between the mistress
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sex scandal and the <ent type='GPE'>Iran</ent>-<ent type='ORG'>Contra</ent> and the Governor of <ent type='GPE'>Arkansas</ent>.
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There's a connection.
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MARK SWANEY:
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Well what you find out here in a minute is that the sex
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scandals really have nothing to do with it. I saw his lawsuit
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several months ago when I was in <ent type='GPE'>Little Rock</ent> and it was of
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no interest to me I didn't even bother to make a copy of it.
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But <ent type='PERSON'><ent type='PERSON'>Larry</ent> <ent type='PERSON'>Nichols</ent></ent>, the man, and his relationship to the
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Governor is extremely interesting. You see what it is --is
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that his job was to make military analysis of the situation
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in <ent type='GPE'>Honduras</ent> with the <ent type='NORP'>Contras</ent>. And to take that information
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back to <ent type='GPE'>the United States</ent> and package it and present it to
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<ent type='ORG'>Congress</ent>men who are in favor of <ent type='ORG'>Contra</ent> Aid with a view toward
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convincing them that the <ent type='ORG'>Contra</ent>'s were an effective military
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fighting force --that they could win militarily against the
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<ent type='ORG'>Sandanistas</ent>. At some point around '85 I believe this job for
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<ent type='PERSON'>Larry</ent> ran out, and he didn't have any money and he approached
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Governor <ent type='PERSON'>Clinton</ent>. Now according to <ent type='PERSON'>Larry</ent>, he and Governor <ent type='PERSON'>Clinton</ent>
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are close friends, have known each other for a long time. In
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fact before the Governor was the Governor. He asked Governor
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<ent type='PERSON'>Clinton</ent> --hey I'm broke I need a job. Well it's not too usual
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that somebody could just call up the Governor and say I want
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a job and the Governor says sure we'll make you Marketing
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Director for <ent type='ORG'>ADFA</ent>. That's the <ent type='GPE'>Arkansas</ent> Development Finance
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Authority --which figures centrally in <ent type='PERSON'>Bill Clinton</ent>'s
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relationship to the <ent type='ORG'>Contra</ent> Resupply network that the state
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of <ent type='GPE'>Arkansas</ent> was so heavily involved in. In any case he was
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there working at <ent type='ORG'>ADFA</ent> and someone at <ent type='ORG'>ADFA</ent> a fellow employee
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had found out about this guy that was working with them who
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was this romantic jungle fighter type of character. And
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eventually she began to talk to some friends about it and
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word reached the ears of a reporter and a reporter began
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to investigate <ent type='PERSON'><ent type='PERSON'>Larry</ent> <ent type='PERSON'>Nichols</ent></ent> --wondering what this big <ent type='ORG'>Contra</ent>
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supporter was doing working for <ent type='ORG'>ADFA</ent>. Everyone who holds a
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top position at <ent type='ORG'>ADFA</ent> is directly appointed by <ent type='PERSON'>Bill Clinton</ent> --in
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fact <ent type='ORG'>ADFA</ent> is a total invention of <ent type='PERSON'>Bill Clinton</ent>'s --he created
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the agency out of thin air and appoints all of the top
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directors. In any case a reporter approached <ent type='PERSON'>Bill Clinton</ent>
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in <ent type='GPE'>Japan</ent> and started to question him about <ent type='PERSON'><ent type='PERSON'>Larry</ent> <ent type='PERSON'>Nichols</ent></ent>
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--wanted to know what this guy was doing on state payroll
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--if he was lobbying for the <ent type='ORG'>Contra</ent>'s or just what the story
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was. Mr. <ent type='PERSON'>Clinton</ent>, rather precipitously fired <ent type='PERSON'><ent type='PERSON'>Larry</ent> <ent type='PERSON'>Nichols</ent></ent>
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directly after that. And the story that was put out was that
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he was fired for misusing state telephones that he'd supposedly
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made hundreds of calls to the <ent type='NORP'>Contras</ent> and ran up thousands of
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dollars worth of bills to the <ent type='NORP'>Contras</ent> -- uhmm that is an
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unsubstantiated allegation --in fact on <ent type='PERSON'><ent type='PERSON'>Larry</ent> <ent type='PERSON'>Nichols</ent></ent> suggestion
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the organization I work with received his entire phone records
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from <ent type='ORG'>ADFA</ent> through freedom of information act and went over
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those phone records with him call by call and we did not find
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any records of calls by him outside <ent type='GPE'>the United States</ent> on
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those phone records so it was a phony charge and <ent type='PERSON'><ent type='PERSON'>Larry</ent> <ent type='PERSON'>Nichols</ent></ent>
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was in fact wrongfully fired and they made up this story that
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he was calling the <ent type='NORP'>Contras</ent> in order to get rid of him.
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PAUL DeRIENZO:
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Why do you think that was?
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MARK SWANEY:
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Well I don't know the exact reason but I can tell you this
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that <ent type='PERSON'><ent type='PERSON'>Larry</ent> <ent type='PERSON'>Nichols</ent></ent> and <ent type='ORG'>Buddy Young</ent> the man I mentioned earlier,
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are very close friends.
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PAUL DeRIENZO:
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Well that's a point that you just mentioned that <ent type='ORG'>Buddy Young</ent> was
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the State Security man who discovered the airplane -- the allegedly
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stolen airplane belonging to <ent type='PERSON'>Terry Reid</ent> was in fact in a certain
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airport hangar.
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MARK SWANEY:
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Everything to do with that in fact the federal judge is on record
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for calling <ent type='ORG'>Buddy Young</ent> a liar in <ent type='PERSON'>Terry Reid</ent>'s trial. But see <ent type='PERSON'>Larry</ent>
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<ent type='PERSON'>Nichols</ent> and <ent type='ORG'>Buddy Young</ent> knew each other and are close friends
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according to the newspaper accounts that were in the newspaper
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down here in <ent type='GPE'>Arkansas</ent> yesterday -- they're old buddies.
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PAUL DeRIENZO:
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Yes, well that's what the Associated Press report that I'm looking
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at right now says that <ent type='PERSON'>Nichols</ent> dropped his lawsuit after consulting
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with <ent type='ORG'>Buddy Young</ent>.
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MARK SWANEY:
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Yes, Now I'm going to say something right now which is rather
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shocking -- this is the first time this has been made public
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to my knowledge. A member of my organization who is going to
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be at a press conference that we're having tomorrow --spoke
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with <ent type='PERSON'><ent type='PERSON'>Larry</ent> <ent type='PERSON'>Nichols</ent></ent> --we've been in contact with him for several
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months off and on on the telephone, and he's had a conversation
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with him sometime around the first week of January -- during
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which <ent type='PERSON'><ent type='PERSON'>Larry</ent> <ent type='PERSON'>Nichols</ent></ent> tolde this member of my organization -- that
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<ent type='ORG'>Buddy Young</ent> had called him and told him that he in fact was a
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dead man -- that was under threat of death.
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PAUL DeRIENZO:
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<ent type='ORG'>Buddy Young</ent> was?
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MARK SWANEY:
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No. <ent type='PERSON'><ent type='PERSON'>Larry</ent> <ent type='PERSON'>Nichols</ent></ent>. And at that time <ent type='ORG'>Buddy Young</ent> was frightened
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-- he was not threatening <ent type='PERSON'><ent type='PERSON'>Larry</ent> <ent type='PERSON'>Nichols</ent></ent> personally he was saying
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that we're all in trouble with this because there's a move in
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the Governor's office to get rid of me. So <ent type='ORG'>Buddy Young</ent> was
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afraid that Governor <ent type='PERSON'>Clinton</ent> was about to axe him in the same
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way that he axed <ent type='PERSON'><ent type='PERSON'>Larry</ent> <ent type='PERSON'>Nichols</ent></ent>. And so serious did he take
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this possibility that he informed <ent type='PERSON'><ent type='PERSON'>Larry</ent> <ent type='PERSON'>Nichols</ent></ent> directly that
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he was a dead man.
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PAUL DeRIENZO:
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So <ent type='PERSON'><ent type='PERSON'>Larry</ent> <ent type='PERSON'>Nichols</ent></ent> is now saying that <ent type='ORG'>Buddy Young</ent> the Chief of
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Governor <ent type='PERSON'>Clinton</ent>'s gubernatorial campaign has told him that
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he's a dead man.
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MARK SWANEY:
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Yes, that is the information that <ent type='PERSON'><ent type='PERSON'>Larry</ent> <ent type='PERSON'>Nichols</ent></ent> gave to us
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-- now as I say that has not been reported anywhere else and
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I would not bet a lot right now on Mr. <ent type='PERSON'>Nichols</ent> backing that
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statement up, but I back it up.
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PAUL DeRIENZO:
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And this is prior to him dropping this lawsuit against Governor
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<ent type='PERSON'>Clinton</ent>.
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MARK SWANEY:
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Yes, the timing of his dropping the lawsuit is interesting to
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us too, because we just recently were in contact with the Nation
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Magazine, and it was approximately two days after the Nation
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Magazine actually decided to take the information that we had
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collected on this case very seriously and in fact are now
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pursuing their own investigative journalism on this, it was
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about two days after that that <ent type='PERSON'><ent type='PERSON'>Larry</ent> <ent type='PERSON'>Nichols</ent></ent> declared that he
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was going to drop his lawsuit. Uh, so there's some very strange
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things that are going on. There's a great deal of other
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||||
information --uh, connecting Governor <ent type='PERSON'>Clinton</ent> to the operation
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in <ent type='PERSON'>Mena</ent>. We don't have what you'd call a smoking gun on this
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||||
-- I have in front of me a piece of paper that I've written
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17 questions for the Governor on that the media has totally
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overlooked in their haste to salivate over all these sexual
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||||
stories --they've totally missed what's available. For example,
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the organization that I work for has been --I don't say I work for,
|
||||
nobody pays us we're getting broke doing this, but in any case
|
||||
we've collected just about everything that's publicly available
|
||||
about <ent type='PERSON'>Mena</ent> and all of its ramifications and its a tremendous
|
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story, and I'd like to emphasize right now that Governor
|
||||
<ent type='PERSON'>Clinton</ent>'s part in this is very minor -- the real big fish in this
|
||||
story is <ent type='PERSON'>George Bush</ent>. The damage that could come from this
|
||||
information coming out is in fact far more damaging to George
|
||||
<ent type='PERSON'>Bush</ent> than anyone else, because he's directly responsible for this
|
||||
-- this operation was run out of the then Vice President George
|
||||
<ent type='PERSON'>Bush</ent>'s office. And I'd also like to add that the <ent type='GPE'>Arkansas</ent> chapter
|
||||
of the <ent type='GPE'>Iran</ent>-<ent type='ORG'>Contra</ent> story was the one that was most heavily
|
||||
covered up at the time -- it was part of the story they had
|
||||
that they took the most care to see to it that nothing ever
|
||||
came out about it. And that was for two reasons: 1) because
|
||||
it involves massive cocaine smuggling -- we had one pilot that
|
||||
came to the <ent type='ORG'>University</ent> and spoke directly to us and said
|
||||
"I personally flew for the <ent type='ORG'>CIA</ent>, guns, <ent type='NORP'>Panamanian</ent> Defense
|
||||
forces and approximately one ton of cocaine per flight.
|
||||
I flew seven of these flights into <ent type='PERSON'>Mena</ent> <ent type='GPE'>Arkansas</ent>." So they
|
||||
wanted to cover it up because it was the one thing that would
|
||||
have exposed the drug connection within <ent type='GPE'>the United States</ent>
|
||||
most heavily. 2) And the other reason that they were very
|
||||
anxious to coverup <ent type='PERSON'>Mena</ent>'s involvement was because the base
|
||||
of operations that the <ent type='ORG'>CIA</ent> was using was in fact still active
|
||||
at the time the hearings were going on. And that base of
|
||||
operations supports covert operations all around the world
|
||||
not just in <ent type='LOC'>Central America</ent>. For example, there's a current
|
||||
covert operation that was going on there at least as late as
|
||||
May of last year that killed a man from <ent type='GPE'>Arkansas</ent> and <ent type='GPE'>Angola</ent> --
|
||||
so the entire time that <ent type='PERSON'>Barry Seal</ent> was operating out of that
|
||||
airport the <ent type='ORG'>CIA</ent> was supporting there covert war with <ent type='ORG'>Jonason</ent>(sp)
|
||||
and <ent type='ORG'>Manunita</ent>(sp) in <ent type='GPE'>Angola</ent>. And we have sources within the
|
||||
<ent type='ORG'>United States government</ent> that there is covert activity going on
|
||||
in it this very day.
|
||||
|
||||
|
||||
PAUL DeRIENZO:
|
||||
|
||||
Thank you very much <ent type='PERSON'>Mark Swaney</ent> --this is an amazing story and
|
||||
the amazing thing about it is that this is the *real* story about
|
||||
Governor <ent type='PERSON'>Bill Clinton</ent> and that what we're getting served to us from
|
||||
all the media from start to finish from morning to night headlines
|
||||
in all the <ent type='GPE'>New York</ent> papers, is this thing about Governor <ent type='PERSON'>Clinton</ent>
|
||||
and this woman <ent type='PERSON'>Jennifer Flowers</ent> and her association with the
|
||||
Governor who is married for 14 years, and the real story which
|
||||
you get on <ent type='ORG'>WBAI</ent> underneath it all from our contacts in <ent type='GPE'>Arkansas</ent>
|
||||
is that in fact the Governor of <ent type='GPE'>Arkansas</ent> is covering up an illegal
|
||||
operation that began in the Vice President's office who is now
|
||||
President of <ent type='GPE'>the United States</ent> -- <ent type='PERSON'>George Bush</ent>. Which makes me
|
||||
wonder why should I even bother voting -- who's there to vote for.
|
||||
I mean both sides the <ent type='NORP'>Democrats</ent> and the <ent type='NORP'>Republicans</ent> are involved.
|
||||
|
||||
MARK SWANEY: </p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>That's another part of the story --you know the best way to buy
|
||||
off an election is to pay off both candidates. There's significant
|
||||
<ent type='NORP'>Republican</ent> interest in seeing <ent type='PERSON'>Bill Clinton</ent> get the nomination
|
||||
from the standpoint that they will be assured then that none
|
||||
of the issues of the <ent type='GPE'>Iran</ent>-<ent type='ORG'>Contra</ent> affair are likely to be talked
|
||||
about. Certainly <ent type='PERSON'>Clinton</ent> doesn't want to talk about them.</p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>We tried before we knew that Mr. <ent type='PERSON'>Clinton</ent> was involved in this --
|
||||
we only came across this information 5 or 6 months ago and
|
||||
for two years now we've been doing demonstrations, writing
|
||||
letters collecting petitions holding informational gatherings
|
||||
to try to get this story to the people, and we have on several
|
||||
occasions sent <ent type='PERSON'>Bill Clinton</ent> signatures, petitions of <ent type='GPE'>Arkansan</ent>'s
|
||||
asking for a state investigation and he refused to do anything
|
||||
about them he would do nothing more than have an aide send us a
|
||||
two sentence letter saying we have received your petition and
|
||||
then this last September just one week before he decided to
|
||||
run for the Presidency we contacted his office and said listen
|
||||
we'd be willing to talk to you or any one of your aides so that
|
||||
we could talk to you about this major crime problem in our state
|
||||
that we're concerned about that we'd like to get to the bottom
|
||||
of -- and he refused that. During the 4 or 5 years now that
|
||||
the press has covered this story about <ent type='PERSON'>Mena</ent> and <ent type='PERSON'>Barry Seal</ent> --
|
||||
you know this is a story about people who have been murdered --
|
||||
this is a very, very serious affair and during all of this time
|
||||
talk of massive <ent type='ORG'>Cocaine</ent> smuggling, corruption of local officials
|
||||
corruption of <ent type='ORG'>Federal and State</ent> judicial system on and on and on
|
||||
there was total silence from the Governor, not a word. And it
|
||||
was not until our organization had a large demonstration
|
||||
-- it wasn't really a large demonstration but it was very well
|
||||
covered in the <ent type='GPE'>Arkansas</ent> press --that reporters approached
|
||||
Mr. <ent type='PERSON'>Clinton</ent> about <ent type='PERSON'>Mena</ent>. He talked about it for the first time
|
||||
in 4 or 5 years and what he had to say at that time was that
|
||||
he had in fact authorized some money for lonely little <ent type='GPE'>Polk County</ent>,
|
||||
which is a poor county in Southwestern <ent type='GPE'>Arkansas</ent> to run an
|
||||
investigation and so we asked him for back up from the
|
||||
Governor's office we said -freedom of information act
|
||||
-- we'd like to know if you have any documentation whatsoever
|
||||
to back up your statement that you are willing to help the
|
||||
<ent type='GPE'>Polk County</ent> investigators do their own state investigation
|
||||
in this affair. And he could not produce a single thing.</p>
|
||||
|
||||
<div>---------------------------</div>
|
||||
|
||||
<p>"Why of course the people don't want war... It is the leaders...who
|
||||
determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the
|
||||
people along...all you have to do is tell them they are being attacked
|
||||
and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the
|
||||
country to danger. It works the same in any country.</p>
|
||||
|
||||
<p><ent type='PERSON'>Hermann Goering</ent>, 1936
|
||||
|
||||
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