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From: srf@claudius.juliet.ll.mit.edu ( Steve Feinstein)
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Subject: Nixon and JFK Assassination
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Date: 29 Mar 91 17:30:43 GMT
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In response to the poster's request for info on Nixon and Ruby:
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In an FBI document released in 1975, the following memo was included, written
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by a Bureau staff assistant to a government panel looking into organized-
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crime activity in 1947:
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It is my sworn statement that one Jack Rubenstein of Chicago, noted
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as a potential witness for hearings of the House Committee on Un-
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American Activities, is performing information functions for the
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staff of Congressman Richard Nixon, Republican of California. It
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is requested that Rubenstein not be called for open testimony in the
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aforementioned hearings.
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Toward the end of 1947, Rubenstein moved to Dallas and changed his name to
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Ruby. The FBI claimed the document was a fake but the professor at
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Holy Cross who discovered it and is expert in FBI documents says that it
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was not a fake.
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Nixon behaved suspiciously in Dallas on 11/22/63. He denied being in
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Dallas when questioned by the FBI, but then changed the story to being
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that he was there for board meeting of Pepsico. There is no such meeting
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on record.
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Also, Pepsico's advertising was handled by the same firm that worked to
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sell the Pentagon's "peace" campaign. Nixon and Pepsi president Kendall
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were longtime friends, and Nixon, according to the Justice Department,
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eliminated all red-tape so that Pepsico could open up in the Soviet
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Union. It was Kendall who formed the Save the Presidency Committee during
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Watergate. Cartha DeLoach, the FBI liaison between Hoover and LBJ later
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joined Pepsi-Cola.
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Here are some taped conversations from Watergate that you will be interested
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in:
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6/23/72 (5 days after Watergate break-in: Nixon, Haldeman Oval Office.
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Nixon: Of course this Hunt [Watergate burglar and CIA liaison with anti-
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Castro Cubans E. Howard Hunt], that will uncover a lot of things.
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You open that scab, there's a hell of a lot of things, and we feel
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that it would be very detrimental to have this thing go any further...
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it's going to open the whole Bay of Pigs thing up again.
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...later same day:
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Nixon: very bad to have this fellow, Hunt, he knows too damned much, if he
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was involved--you happen to know that? [Hunt was in radio contact
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with the burglars from across the street.] If it gets out that this
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is all involved, the Cuba thing would be a fiasco. It would make the
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CIA look bad, and it's very likely to blow the whole Bay of Pigs
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thing, which we think would be very unfortunate--both for the CIA,
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and for the country, at this time, and for American foriegn policy.
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Just tell him to lay off...
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Haldeman: [tells Nixon that the FBI was aware of CIA operatives involvement
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in Watergate burglary] ...the problem is it tracks back to the Bay
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of Pigs and it tracks back to some other, the leads run out to people
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who had no involvement in this, except by contracts and connection,
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but it gets into areas that are liabled to be realized.
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Note: Hunt demanded $2million from Nixon to keep quiet and got it. Nixon
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was out of office during the Bay of Pigs invasion. The "whole Bay of Pigs
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thing" was over by the time he got back in office. So what do you think
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they were talking about??? Hmmm...
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Steve Feinstein
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From: srf@claudius.juliet.ll.mit.edu ( Steve Feinstein)
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Subject: Re: Nixon and JFK Assassination
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Message-ID: <SRF.91Mar29151303@claudius.juliet.ll.mit.edu>
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Date: 29 Mar 91 21:13:03 GMT
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In-Reply-To: srf@claudius.juliet.ll.mit.edu's message of 29 Mar 91 11:30:43
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In article <SRF.91Mar29113043@claudius.juliet.ll.mit.edu> srf@claudius.juliet.ll.mit.edu ( Steve Feinstein) writes:
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> 6/23/72 (5 days after Watergate break-in: Nixon, Haldeman Oval Office.
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>Nixon: Of course this Hunt [Watergate burglar and CIA liaison with anti-
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> Castro Cubans E. Howard Hunt], that will uncover a lot of things.
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> You open that scab, there's a hell of a lot of things, and we feel
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> that it would be very detrimental to have this thing go any further...
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> it's going to open the whole Bay of Pigs thing up again.
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> ...later same day:
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>Nixon: very bad to have this fellow, Hunt, he knows too damned much, if he
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> was involved--you happen to know that? [Hunt was in radio contact
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> with the burglars from across the street.] If it gets out that this
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> is all involved, the Cuba thing would be a fiasco. It would make the
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> CIA look bad, and it's very likely to blow the whole Bay of Pigs
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> thing, which we think would be very unfortunate--both for the CIA,
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> and for the country, at this time, and for American foriegn policy.
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> Just tell him to lay off...
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>
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>Haldeman: [tells Nixon that the FBI was aware of CIA operatives involvement
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> in Watergate burglary] ...the problem is it tracks back to the Bay
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> of Pigs and it tracks back to some other, the leads run out to people
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> who had no involvement in this, except by contracts and connection,
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> but it gets into areas that are liabled to be realized.
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>
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>Note: Hunt demanded $2million from Nixon to keep quiet and got it. Nixon
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> was out of office during the Bay of Pigs invasion. The "whole Bay of Pigs
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> thing" was over by the time he got back in office. So what do you think
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> they were talking about??? Hmmm...
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I might add that a letter exists from Lee Oswald to a Mr. Hunt:
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Nov. 8, 1963
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Dear Mr. Hunt,
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I would like information concerding [sic] my
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position.
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I am asking only for information. I am
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suggesting that we discuss the matter fully before
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any steps are taken by me or anyone else.
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Thank you,
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Lee Harvey Oswald
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This note came from Mexico City. Many researchers believe that E.H.
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Hunt, who was in Mexico City at about the time this note was written,
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and who was the CIA liaison to anti-Castro Cubans, may have been the
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Mr. Hunt in the letter. Hunt is believed to have been in Dallas on the
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Steve Feinstein
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From: PML3@NS.CC.LEHIGH.EDU (Paul Lewis)
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Subject: RE: Nixon and JFK Assassination
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There also exists a picture of Hunt to prove his presence in Dallas
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during the assassination. He was one of the 'tramps' that the police
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picked up by the railroad tracks.
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Isn't it funny how Nixon was practically the only American who couldn't
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remember where he was during the assassination? Not until others
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claimed that they saw him in Dallas did he admit to it.
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| 'The love you take is equal to the love you make.'
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Paul Lewis | -The Beatles, 'The End'
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| 'Forcing the issue was always worth it.'
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'Anyone | 'You always said yes. Yes to anyone with a badge or a flag.
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have a | -Bruce Wayne to Clark Kent, 'The Dark Knight Returns'
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Strange | 'We turned in horror toward the back of the grassy knoll
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Tales | where it seemed the sounds had originated.'
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#97?' | -Cheryl McKinnon, witness to the murder of J.F.K.
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From: gary@ism.isc.com (Gary Swift)
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Subject: Re: Nixon and JFK Assassination
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Message-ID: <1991Apr02.001730.24011@ism.isc.com>
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>There also exists a picture of Hunt to prove his presence in Dallas
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>during the assassination. He was one of the 'tramps' that the police
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There was a TV program about the JFK assassination (sorry, I
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forget which one it was) wherein Hunt was confronted about this.
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Instead of reacting incredulously, as one would react when
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accused of something utterly bizarre and/or implausible, his
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reaction reminded me of a little kid caught doing something
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naughty and starts backpaddling with lies. E.g., instead of
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laughing as saying something like, "What a crock!" He sort of
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looked blank, shook his head, and started stammering.
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OK, I admit I hate the SOB, his fellow traitors, and what they
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did to this country, and I would find it emotionally easy to
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believe the same bunch was involved in the JFK assassination.
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So I'm biased. But I would love to subject that little piece of
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footage to a voice stress analysis.
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BTW, Hunt was also reported to be at Chappaquidick (sp?) before
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any virtually anyone else, like the local law.
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Gary Swift, INTERACTIVE Systems Corp., Santa Monica, Ca., (213) 453 8649
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From: srf@claudius.juliet.ll.mit.edu ( Steve Feinstein)
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Subject: Re: Nixon and JFK Assassination
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In article <1991Apr02.001730.24011@ism.isc.com> gary@ism.isc.com (Gary Swift) writes:
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> BTW, Hunt was also reported to be at Chappaquidick (sp?) before
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> any virtually anyone else, like the local law.
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Huh? Could you explain this? Who reported this, why was he supposedly
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exactly wherever they say he was, and what's the implication? Are you
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suggesting he had anything to do with a drunk driving accident? Or is
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one of his skills first aid?
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In article <SRF.91Apr2103451@claudius.juliet.ll.mit.edu> srf@claudius.juliet.ll.mit.edu ( Steve Feinstein) writes:
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>In article <1991Apr02.001730.24011@ism.isc.com> gary@ism.isc.com (Gary Swift) writes:
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>> BTW, Hunt was also reported to be at Chappaquidick (sp?) before
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>> any virtually anyone else, like the local law.
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>Huh? Could you explain this? Who reported this, why was he supposedly
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>exactly wherever they say he was, and what's the implication? Are you
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Sorry Steve, I can't back this up. I saw this allegation in a TV
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program about Chappaquiddick whose name I don't remember. (Over
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40; getting senile. :-)) I just checked 9 different books I have
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on Watergate and read every page where Hunt and Ted Kennedy were
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both mentioned according to the indices. There are lots of
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passages about Hunt digging up dirt on Ted on behalf of Nixon's
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general Kennedy paranoia, and in particular on the Chappaquiddick
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incident, but I couldn't find any suggestion that he was actually
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on the scene the morning after the accident.
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> In article <SRF.91Apr2103451@claudius.juliet.ll.mit.edu> srf@claudius.juliet.ll.mit.edu ( Steve Feinstein) writes:
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>>In article <1991Apr02.001730.24011@ism.isc.com> gary@ism.isc.com (Gary Swift) writes:
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>>> BTW, Hunt was also reported to be at Chappaquidick (sp?) before
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>>> any virtually anyone else, like the local law.
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> 40; getting senile. :-)) I just checked 9 different books I have
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> on Watergate and read every page where Hunt and Ted Kennedy were
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> passages about Hunt digging up dirt on Ted on behalf of Nixon's
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> general Kennedy paranoia, and in particular on the Chappaquiddick
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Flaky Feeds means that Imissed the start of this thread. Usual
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Wasn't Nixon
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>>>In article <1991Apr02.001730.24011@ism.isc.com> gary@ism.isc.com (Gary Swift) writes:
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>> I just checked 9 different books I have
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>> on the scene the morning after the accident.
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>Wasn't Nixon
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Hi Steve! Yes, Steve Feinstein mentioned that Nixon was in
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>Has noone else mentioned the
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>coincidences in the people involved (badly put - compare indices of
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Some have been mentioned. It *is* interesting that some of the same
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Watergate. It would be interesting to make a concordance or big
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wall chart mapping the associations among these people, using the
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One could go back to pre-Castro Cuba and see who had what interests.
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Havana casinos, mafia, Vesco, Hughs and Maheu, etc., and on to
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the Bay of Pigs (CIA, Hunt, "the Cubans", etc.), which was not only
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Frank Willis?
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In article <1991Apr11.012148.9507@ism.isc.com> gary@ism.isc.com (Gary Swift) writes:
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Hi Gary. I also mentioned that Nixon originally told the FBI that he was not
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there is no board meeting on record. Now, who in this nation over the age
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>Some have been mentioned. It *is* interesting that some of the same
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> One could go back to pre-Castro Cuba and see who had what interests.
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>Havana casinos, mafia, Vesco, Hughs and Maheu, etc., and on to
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I don't know what to make of conspiracy theories. It is too easy
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So just to add some grist to the mill:
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Gerald Ford served on the Warren commission and earned the
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Dick Cheney was Gerald Ford's Chief of Staff when George
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George Bush appointed Dick Cheney Secretary of Defense.
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>I remember reading in the NY Times during Iran-Contra hearings that a lot
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