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Posting time: 2.4 hours ago on 12/9/2016 4:01:12 PM
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NerdyNoodle
It was one of the first things I noticed:
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Police seized a folding knife and three guns from the scene, including a Colt .38 handgun, a Colt AR-15 rifle, and a shotgun. Two of the guns were found on the alleged gunman and one was recovered in a vehicle, according to police. The restaurant suffered at least $1,000 worth of damage to a door, door lock, ***computer tower***, and barrier wall.
[Washington Post](https://www.washingtonian.com/2016/12/05/comet-ping-pong-police-report-edgar-maddison-welch/)
Now if they DO get investigated they can just say, "Aww, too bad, the computer was damaged by the shooter."
They needed a plausible reason to get rid of the evidence. I bet they now have a shiny new, squeaky clean computer at Comet Ping Pong.
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Can someone explain to me, why Alefantis, if involved in CP, would need the police to get rid of the HD? Makes no sense to me.
Can someone explain to me, why Alefantis, if involved in CP, would need the police to get rid of the HD? Makes no sense to me.
some of the people in here are disinformation shills or just retarded. They act like this is somehow an ingenius move to cover their tracks. THEY're not even under investigation by anyone except for us citizens, they can freely get rid of any evidence they want without using this as an excuse.
some of the people in here are disinformation shills or just retarded. They act like this is somehow an ingenius move to cover their tracks. THEY're not even under investigation by anyone except for us citizens, they can freely get rid of any evidence they want without using this as an excuse.
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Most people are just here to fellate each other's wild theories. Between them, and the shills, it's a massive circle jerk.
Most people are just here to fellate each other's wild theories. Between them, and the shills, it's a massive circle jerk.
The FALSE FLAG shooter was yet another pedophile pawn. Based on my info, Harry Welch is a convicted pedo and lives in the same house as Edgar.
According to the criminal complaint, by an Officer Zuniga, Edgar shot a computer.
Why? That's the quickest way to disable a hard drive. Shoot the hard disk -- kills the Names, addresses, and Kiddie Porn Snuff Films on that computer.
The FALSE FLAG shooter was yet another pedophile pawn. Based on my info, Harry Welch is a convicted pedo and lives in the same house as Edgar.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/12/05/us/document-Edgar-Welch-Criminal-Complaint-Comet-Ping-Pong.html?_r=0
According to the criminal complaint, by an Officer Zuniga, Edgar shot a computer.
Why? That's the quickest way to disable a hard drive. Shoot the hard disk -- kills the Names, addresses, and Kiddie Porn Snuff Films on that computer.
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No, the quickest way is to run software to delete the drive before Edgar even shows up. If Comet were doing stuff and Edgar was part of it, they could easily have done this themself. I bet that computer just had accounting info on it.
No, the quickest way is to run software to delete the drive before Edgar even shows up. If Comet were doing stuff and Edgar was part of it, they could easily have done this themself. I bet that computer just had accounting info on it.
Accounting info can be highly significant.
Accounting info can be highly significant.
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Just wipe it with a cloth!
Just wipe it with a cloth!
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That's a lot of damage from supposedly a single gunshot
That's a lot of damage from supposedly a single gunshot
Should still be readable memory on there. Will be good to see where it is supposed to have been hit. I feel the repairs they do to the floor, will involve filling in the tunnels and basement. If the fill-in is found, down the track, then we can argue forever about it being recent, or not, like the shroud of turin. But they can not afford to have basements found, in actuality! If someone can get confirmation, this case is solved! There is a quote found that says he has connecting tunnels through bucks, to comet pizza by 99lufttballons...
Should still be readable memory on there. Will be good to see where it is supposed to have been hit. I feel the repairs they do to the floor, will involve filling in the tunnels and basement. If the fill-in is found, down the track, then we can argue forever about it being recent, or not, like the shroud of turin. But they can not afford to have basements found, in actuality! If someone can get confirmation, this case is solved! There is a quote found that says he has connecting tunnels through bucks, to comet pizza by 99lufttballons...
I know and you know that information is recoverable
even from a small piece of a hard drive , given the right resources to recover it. But the general population will just hear that the computer was shot and therefore the information is unrecoverable. The general population will believe it, and the matter is settled.
I am suggesting that this was one of the purposes of the false flag. Especially if they claim that the physical drive was destroyed.
I know and you know that information is recoverable *even from a small piece of a hard drive*, given the right resources to recover it. But the general population will just hear that the computer was shot and therefore the information is unrecoverable. The general population will believe it, and the matter is settled.
I am suggesting that this was one of the purposes of the false flag. Especially if they claim that the physical drive was destroyed.
Why would you need the false flag shooter to destroy the evidence? I'm not following the logic here...they're not under investigation to begin with. They could freely destroy a computer without having to rely on the false flag attacker do it for them.
Why would you need the false flag shooter to destroy the evidence? I'm not following the logic here...they're not under investigation to begin with. They could freely destroy a computer without having to rely on the false flag attacker do it for them.
i think you could be right, as it is such a weird place to say he shot. i dont think he fired at all, myself. at some stage, there will need to be a look at that computer. he cant avoid this much longer. they are buying time, to deal with all the evidence. they dont expect to be able to keep people so willing to be quiet for much longer. its a wonder people arent calling fr alefantis to prove if he hasn't done anything by showing, rather than putting concerns down as attacks and harrassment.
i think you could be right, as it is such a weird place to say he shot. i dont think he fired at all, myself. at some stage, there will need to be a look at that computer. he cant avoid this much longer. they are buying time, to deal with all the evidence. they dont expect to be able to keep people so willing to be quiet for much longer. its a wonder people arent calling fr alefantis to prove if he hasn't done anything by showing, rather than putting concerns down as attacks and harrassment.
Filling in tunnels will not be a short process. It will take a long time, and close down the resturant for a bit.
Filling in tunnels will not be a short process. It will take a long time, and close down the resturant for a bit.
it is closed last few days, I hear.
it is closed last few days, I hear.
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I thought it was odd when I heard it. Why so heavily armed just to scare some people too? The whole thing reeks like a fish market in the midday sun.
I thought it was odd when I heard it. Why so heavily armed just to scare some people too? The whole thing reeks like a fish market in the midday sun.
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The police or FBI need a warrant to search the computer.
The police or FBI need a warrant to search the computer.
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If/when
they get a warrant, CPP can say, "Oh sorry, it was damaged by the shooter so we got rid of it."
I can almost guarantee they will say the hard drive was hit.
Or else colluding law enforcement officials might say, "We could not retrieve any data because the hard drive was hit by a bullet."
I am not saying that law enforcement would collude, only that it is a possibility.
*If/when* they get a warrant, CPP can say, "Oh sorry, it was damaged by the shooter so we got rid of it."
I can almost guarantee they will say the hard drive was hit.
Or else colluding law enforcement officials might say, "We could not retrieve any data because the hard drive was hit by a bullet."
I am not saying that law enforcement would collude, only that it is a possibility.
cpp isn't under investigation to begin with. If they were worried about incriminating evidence on the computer they could just go ahead and destroy it without having to use the guise of "oh the shooter damaged it". If there was evidence on a computer, they would have already scrubbed or destroyed it, they don't need a shooter to break it lmao.
cpp isn't under investigation to begin with. If they were worried about incriminating evidence on the computer they could just go ahead and destroy it without having to use the guise of "oh the shooter damaged it". If there was evidence on a computer, they would have already scrubbed or destroyed it, they don't need a shooter to break it lmao.
Won't do much good if it's destroyed.
Won't do much good if it's destroyed.
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As long as the hard drive didn't get hit, that's all they need!
As long as the hard drive didn't get hit, that's all they need!
Also, does anyone have any proof that the FBI is in possession of the computer? This is not a sarcastic question, I would really like to know the answer. I am asking this because all articles I have read indicated this incident was handled by local law enforcement. In which case the computer is likely in the possession of local law enforcement. This is an important distinction.
Also, does anyone have any proof that the FBI is in possession of the computer? This is not a sarcastic question, I would really like to know the answer. I am asking this because all articles I have read indicated this incident was handled by local law enforcement. In which case the computer is likely in the possession of local law enforcement. This is an important distinction.
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Theory: maybe the shooter had been a customer, worried about all of the recent publicity, decided to take matters into his own hands and destroy some evidence of his crimes. I.e. CPP's harddrive of him doing dirty things.
Theory: maybe the shooter had been a customer, worried about all of the recent publicity, decided to take matters into his own hands and destroy some evidence of his crimes. I.e. CPP's harddrive of him doing dirty things.
If they wanted to destroy the computer, why didn't they just do it themselves? It's in their possession. On their property. It would make zero sense to pull all this off just to get some guy to MAYBE destroy the harddrive when he shot it (he would have to have knowledge of where exactly the HDD was in the tower). It would also be extremely risky for the police to destroy it (tampering with evidence is a serious crime).
No. If they took the computer, they took it to find dirt on CPP. Which means if the shooter was a FF actor, he was an actor for our cause.
Which makes sense seeing has we got signals to "dial it down" soon after the incident.
If they wanted to destroy the computer, why didn't they just do it themselves? It's in their possession. On their property. It would make zero sense to pull all this off just to get some guy to MAYBE destroy the harddrive when he shot it (he would have to have knowledge of where exactly the HDD was in the tower). It would also be extremely risky for the police to destroy it (tampering with evidence is a serious crime).
No. If they took the computer, they took it to find dirt on CPP.
Which means if the shooter was a FF actor, he was an actor for our cause.
Which makes sense seeing has we got signals to "dial it down" soon after the incident.
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I read that the bullet hit the computer when he was trying to shoot a lock off a door
I read that the bullet hit the computer when he was trying to shoot a lock off a door
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Is this shooter in jail now or did they release him?
Is this shooter in jail now or did they release him?
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NerdyNoodle
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If I thought this was a false flag event, I would like to know the names of the officers involved in the CPP shooter incident. I would like to know the name of the officer in charge of the CPP shooter investigation. Then I'd like to see if he has connections to Alefantis/Podesta/Clinton to ascertain his impartiality.
Remember at least one witness, supposedly among the last to leave the restaurant, stated early on that he didn't hear any shots fired. Sorry, I know a little about firearms and no one fires a rifle without everyone nearby hearing it. Unless he used a silencer, which has not been alleged.
If I thought this was a false flag event, I would like to know the names of the officers involved in the CPP shooter incident. I would like to know the name of the officer in charge of the CPP shooter investigation. Then I'd like to see if he has connections to Alefantis/Podesta/Clinton to ascertain his impartiality.
Remember at least one witness, supposedly among the last to leave the restaurant, stated early on that he didn't hear any shots fired. Sorry, I know a little about firearms and no one fires a rifle without everyone nearby hearing it. Unless he used a silencer, which has not been alleged.
I think the more pertinent question is whether the shot fired was purposely for removing said lock.
Think the nut job/patsy Welch said 'The intel on this wasn't 100 percent." Now they're taking this to mean the children, but it could be the computer was what he was after.
I think the more pertinent question is whether the shot fired was purposely for removing said lock.
Think the nut job/patsy Welch said 'The intel on this wasn't 100 percent." Now they're taking this to mean the children, but it could be the computer was what he was after.
I'm guessing the computer tower would have been used to do some accounting and to record video from cameras.....To check pizzagate too no doubt.
I'm guessing the computer tower would have been used to do some accounting and to record video from cameras.....To check pizzagate too no doubt.
No matter what that computer is now in police custody as evidence. Perhaps this was a secret op to get the computer.
No matter what that computer is now in police custody as evidence. Perhaps this was a secret op to get the computer.
Could it be possible that JA had flipped and this was a false flag attack but to have a plausible reason to be interacting with the FBI? The computer tower has now become evidence and the whole thing is a ride to give the hard drive too the FBI?
I know it's a long shot but I can see the FBI applying pressure and flipping him if they are indeed investigating this.
Could it be possible that JA had flipped and this was a false flag attack but to have a plausible reason to be interacting with the FBI? The computer tower has now become evidence and the whole thing is a ride to give the hard drive too the FBI?
I know it's a long shot but I can see the FBI applying pressure and flipping him if they are indeed investigating this.
They didn't shoot the walls to get rid of the murals, why would they shoot the tower to get rid of a hard drive?
They didn't shoot the walls to get rid of the murals, why would they shoot the tower to get rid of a hard drive?
there we have it exactly as predicted use this to cover their tracks how convenient
there we have it exactly as predicted use this to cover their tracks how convenient
I hope you realize they wouldn't need to stage a false flag in order to destroy evidence. They're not under any official investigation, they can freely dispose of a computer if they wanted to. This proves absolutely nothing.
I hope you realize they wouldn't need to stage a false flag in order to destroy evidence. They're not under any official investigation, they can freely dispose of a computer if they wanted to. This proves absolutely nothing.
yeah you have some point but at the same token don't dismiss that all the available info highly suggest a false flag and could be used in a desperate attempt to cover their tracks as well as a tactic to censor investigation. Just look at how this incident is being played its offensive and should be called into question.
yeah you have some point but at the same token don't dismiss that all the available info highly suggest a false flag and could be used in a desperate attempt to cover their tracks as well as a tactic to censor investigation. Just look at how this incident is being played its offensive and should be called into question.
Yes. It was not part of the JA tour of investigators. It had a padlock and was referenced in the WAPO article. It is the nexis of their crimes trading CP.
Yes. It was not part of the JA tour of investigators. It had a padlock and was referenced in the WAPO article. It is the nexis of their crimes trading CP.
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Are you making the claim, the only way to remove computer evidence is to shoot it with a rifle?
Because that is a ridiculous claim.
Are you making the claim, the only way to remove computer evidence is to shoot it with a rifle?
Because that is a ridiculous claim.
I laughed at some of the replies in here. If they wanted to destroy the evidence they could freely do so without needing an attacker do it for them.
I laughed at some of the replies in here. If they wanted to destroy the evidence they could freely do so without needing an attacker do it for them.
Yes they could, but if this investigation ever grew legs it would look suspicious. This gives a plausible explanation for the destruction of evidence even before it gets subpoenaed.
Yes they could, but if this investigation ever grew legs it would look suspicious. This gives a plausible explanation for the destruction of evidence even before it gets subpoenaed.
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