diff --git a/libretroshare/src/retroshare/rsgxsifacetypes.h b/libretroshare/src/retroshare/rsgxsifacetypes.h
index 5d3942d7f..90715dfcb 100644
--- a/libretroshare/src/retroshare/rsgxsifacetypes.h
+++ b/libretroshare/src/retroshare/rsgxsifacetypes.h
@@ -239,7 +239,7 @@ public:
 		mNumChildMsgsNew = 0;
 		mNumChildMsgsUnread = 0;
 		mSizeStore = 0;
-	}
+    }
 
 public:
 	uint32_t mNumMsgs;
diff --git a/retroshare-gui/src/gui/Posted/PostedDialog.cpp b/retroshare-gui/src/gui/Posted/PostedDialog.cpp
index cbf7426d9..b6da6024e 100644
--- a/retroshare-gui/src/gui/Posted/PostedDialog.cpp
+++ b/retroshare-gui/src/gui/Posted/PostedDialog.cpp
@@ -82,7 +82,7 @@ PostedDialog::~PostedDialog()
 
 UserNotify *PostedDialog::createUserNotify(QObject *parent)
 {
-	return new PostedUserNotify(rsPosted, parent);
+	return new PostedUserNotify(rsPosted, this, parent);
 }
 
 QString PostedDialog::getHelpString() const
diff --git a/retroshare-gui/src/gui/Posted/PostedUserNotify.cpp b/retroshare-gui/src/gui/Posted/PostedUserNotify.cpp
index 5e7d75040..ed7343557 100644
--- a/retroshare-gui/src/gui/Posted/PostedUserNotify.cpp
+++ b/retroshare-gui/src/gui/Posted/PostedUserNotify.cpp
@@ -22,8 +22,8 @@
 #include "PostedUserNotify.h"
 #include "gui/MainWindow.h"
 
-PostedUserNotify::PostedUserNotify(RsGxsIfaceHelper *ifaceImpl, QObject *parent) :
-    GxsUserNotify(ifaceImpl, parent)
+PostedUserNotify::PostedUserNotify(RsGxsIfaceHelper *ifaceImpl, const GxsGroupFrameDialog *g, QObject *parent) :
+    GxsUserNotify(ifaceImpl, g, parent)
 {
 }
 
@@ -34,10 +34,6 @@ bool PostedUserNotify::hasSetting(QString *name, QString *group)
 
 	return true;
 }
-bool PostedUserNotify::getServiceStatistics(GxsServiceStatistic& stat)
-{
-    return rsPosted->getBoardsServiceStatistics(stat);
-}
 
 QIcon PostedUserNotify::getIcon()
 {
diff --git a/retroshare-gui/src/gui/Posted/PostedUserNotify.h b/retroshare-gui/src/gui/Posted/PostedUserNotify.h
index 8fd4ccdf9..2c12ac889 100644
--- a/retroshare-gui/src/gui/Posted/PostedUserNotify.h
+++ b/retroshare-gui/src/gui/Posted/PostedUserNotify.h
@@ -28,10 +28,9 @@ class PostedUserNotify : public GxsUserNotify
 	Q_OBJECT
 
 public:
-	PostedUserNotify(RsGxsIfaceHelper *ifaceImpl, QObject *parent = 0);
+	PostedUserNotify(RsGxsIfaceHelper *ifaceImpl, const GxsGroupFrameDialog *g, QObject *parent = 0);
 
 	virtual bool hasSetting(QString *name, QString *group);
-    virtual bool getServiceStatistics(GxsServiceStatistic& stat) override;
 
 private:
 	virtual QIcon getIcon();
diff --git a/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxs/GxsGroupFrameDialog.cpp b/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxs/GxsGroupFrameDialog.cpp
index 47300b83e..4d7c92c7f 100644
--- a/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxs/GxsGroupFrameDialog.cpp
+++ b/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxs/GxsGroupFrameDialog.cpp
@@ -1116,7 +1116,7 @@ void GxsGroupFrameDialog::updateGroupStatistics(const RsGxsGroupId &groupId)
 			return;
 		}
 
-		RsQThreadUtils::postToObject( [this,stats]()
+		RsQThreadUtils::postToObject( [this,stats, groupId]()
 		{
 			/* Here it goes any code you want to be executed on the Qt Gui
 			 * thread, for example to update the data model with new information
@@ -1129,6 +1129,7 @@ void GxsGroupFrameDialog::updateGroupStatistics(const RsGxsGroupId &groupId)
 				return;
 
 			ui->groupTreeWidget->setUnreadCount(item, mCountChildMsgs ? (stats.mNumThreadMsgsUnread + stats.mNumChildMsgsUnread) : stats.mNumThreadMsgsUnread);
+            mCachedGroupStats[groupId] = stats;
 
 			getUserNotify()->updateIcon();
 
@@ -1136,6 +1137,23 @@ void GxsGroupFrameDialog::updateGroupStatistics(const RsGxsGroupId &groupId)
 	});
 }
 
+void GxsGroupFrameDialog::getServiceStatistics(GxsServiceStatistic& stats) const
+{
+	stats = GxsServiceStatistic(); // clears everything
+
+   for(auto it:  mCachedGroupStats)
+   {
+       const GxsGroupStatistic& s(it.second);
+
+	   stats.mNumMsgs             += s.mNumMsgs;
+	   stats.mNumGrps             += 1;
+	   stats.mSizeOfMsgs          += s.mTotalSizeOfMsgs;
+	   stats.mNumThreadMsgsNew    += s.mNumThreadMsgsNew;
+	   stats.mNumThreadMsgsUnread += s.mNumThreadMsgsUnread;
+	   stats.mNumChildMsgsNew     += s.mNumChildMsgsNew ;
+	   stats.mNumChildMsgsUnread  += s.mNumChildMsgsUnread ;
+   }
+}
 
 TurtleRequestId GxsGroupFrameDialog::distantSearch(const QString& search_string)   // this should be overloaded in the child class
 {
diff --git a/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxs/GxsGroupFrameDialog.h b/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxs/GxsGroupFrameDialog.h
index b34edc457..ba7581542 100644
--- a/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxs/GxsGroupFrameDialog.h
+++ b/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxs/GxsGroupFrameDialog.h
@@ -29,7 +29,6 @@
 
 #include <inttypes.h>
 
-#include "util/TokenQueue.h"
 #include "GxsIdTreeWidgetItem.h"
 #include "GxsGroupDialog.h"
 
@@ -80,6 +79,8 @@ public:
 
 	virtual void getGroupList(std::map<RsGxsGroupId,RsGroupMetaData> &groups) ;
 
+    void getServiceStatistics(GxsServiceStatistic& stats) const ;
+
 protected:
 	virtual void showEvent(QShowEvent *event) override;
 	virtual void paintEvent(QPaintEvent *pe) override;
@@ -175,20 +176,13 @@ private:
 
 	virtual uint32_t requestGroupSummaryType() { return GXS_REQUEST_TYPE_GROUP_META; } // request only meta data
 
-	void requestGroupStatistics(const RsGxsGroupId &groupId);
-	void loadGroupStatistics(const uint32_t &token);
-
 	// subscribe/unsubscribe ack.
-//	void acknowledgeSubscribeChange(const uint32_t &token);
 
 	GxsMessageFrameWidget *messageWidget(const RsGxsGroupId &groupId, bool ownTab);
 	GxsMessageFrameWidget *createMessageWidget(const RsGxsGroupId &groupId);
 
 	GxsCommentDialog *commentWidget(const RsGxsMessageId &msgId);
 
-//	void requestGroupSummary_CurrentGroup(const  RsGxsGroupId &groupId);
-//	void loadGroupSummary_CurrentGroup(const uint32_t &token);
-
 protected:
 	void updateSearchResults();
 
@@ -220,6 +214,7 @@ private:
 	Ui::GxsGroupFrameDialog *ui;
 
 	std::map<RsGxsGroupId,RsGroupMetaData> mCachedGroupMetas;
+	std::map<RsGxsGroupId,GxsGroupStatistic> mCachedGroupStats;
 
     std::map<uint32_t,QTreeWidgetItem*> mSearchGroupsItems ;
     std::map<uint32_t,std::set<RsGxsGroupId> > mKnownGroups;
diff --git a/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxs/GxsUserNotify.cpp b/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxs/GxsUserNotify.cpp
index b6ebc89af..bc1afa1c1 100644
--- a/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxs/GxsUserNotify.cpp
+++ b/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxs/GxsUserNotify.cpp
@@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
 
 #define TOKEN_TYPE_STATISTICS  1
 
-GxsUserNotify::GxsUserNotify(RsGxsIfaceHelper *ifaceImpl, QObject *parent) : UserNotify(parent)
+GxsUserNotify::GxsUserNotify(RsGxsIfaceHelper *ifaceImpl, const GxsGroupFrameDialog *g,QObject *parent) : UserNotify(parent), mGroupFrameDialog(g)
 {
 	mNewThreadMessageCount = 0;
 	mNewChildMessageCount = 0;
@@ -40,32 +40,17 @@ void GxsUserNotify::startUpdate()
 	mNewThreadMessageCount = 0;
 	mNewChildMessageCount = 0;
 
-	RsThread::async([this]()
-	{
-        // 1 - get message data from p3GxsForums
 
-#ifdef DEBUG_FORUMS
-        std::cerr << "Retrieving post data for post " << mThreadId << std::endl;
-#endif
+	GxsServiceStatistic stats;
+	mGroupFrameDialog->getServiceStatistics(stats);
 
-		GxsServiceStatistic stats;
-
-        if(!getServiceStatistics(stats))
-            return;
-
-        RsQThreadUtils::postToObject( [stats,this]()
-		{
-			/* Here it goes any code you want to be executed on the Qt Gui
+	/* Here it goes any code you want to be executed on the Qt Gui
 			 * thread, for example to update the data model with new information
 			 * after a blocking call to RetroShare API complete */
 
-				mNewThreadMessageCount = stats.mNumThreadMsgsNew;
-				mNewChildMessageCount = stats.mNumChildMsgsNew;
+	mNewThreadMessageCount = stats.mNumThreadMsgsNew;
+	mNewChildMessageCount = stats.mNumChildMsgsNew;
 
-				update();
-
-		}, this );
-
-    });
+	update();
 }
 
diff --git a/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxs/GxsUserNotify.h b/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxs/GxsUserNotify.h
index cc1cd3809..f9c5cd616 100644
--- a/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxs/GxsUserNotify.h
+++ b/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxs/GxsUserNotify.h
@@ -23,6 +23,7 @@
 
 #include <QObject>
 #include "gui/common/UserNotify.h"
+#include "gui/gxs/GxsGroupFrameDialog.h"
 #include "util/TokenQueue.h"
 
 struct RsGxsIfaceHelper;
@@ -33,12 +34,11 @@ class GxsUserNotify : public UserNotify
 	Q_OBJECT
 
 public:
-	GxsUserNotify(RsGxsIfaceHelper *ifaceImpl, QObject *parent = 0);
+	GxsUserNotify(RsGxsIfaceHelper *ifaceImpl, const GxsGroupFrameDialog *g, QObject *parent = 0);
 	virtual ~GxsUserNotify();
 
 protected:
 	virtual void startUpdate();
-    virtual bool getServiceStatistics(GxsServiceStatistic& stat)=0;
 
 private:
 	virtual unsigned int getNewCount() { return mCountChildMsgs ? (mNewThreadMessageCount + mNewChildMessageCount) : mNewThreadMessageCount; }
@@ -48,6 +48,8 @@ protected:
 
 private:
 	RsGxsUpdateBroadcastBase *mBase;
+    const GxsGroupFrameDialog      *mGroupFrameDialog;
+
 	unsigned int mNewThreadMessageCount;
 	unsigned int mNewChildMessageCount;
 };
diff --git a/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxschannels/GxsChannelDialog.cpp b/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxschannels/GxsChannelDialog.cpp
index 395c9db31..9c3afc945 100644
--- a/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxschannels/GxsChannelDialog.cpp
+++ b/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxschannels/GxsChannelDialog.cpp
@@ -109,7 +109,7 @@ QString GxsChannelDialog::getHelpString() const
 
 UserNotify *GxsChannelDialog::createUserNotify(QObject *parent)
 {
-	return new GxsChannelUserNotify(rsGxsChannels, parent);
+	return new GxsChannelUserNotify(rsGxsChannels,this, parent);
 }
 
 void GxsChannelDialog::shareOnChannel(const RsGxsGroupId& channel_id,const QList<RetroShareLink>& file_links)
diff --git a/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxschannels/GxsChannelUserNotify.cpp b/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxschannels/GxsChannelUserNotify.cpp
index 3e5212476..eb54a39c3 100644
--- a/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxschannels/GxsChannelUserNotify.cpp
+++ b/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxschannels/GxsChannelUserNotify.cpp
@@ -22,8 +22,8 @@
 #include "GxsChannelUserNotify.h"
 #include "gui/MainWindow.h"
 
-GxsChannelUserNotify::GxsChannelUserNotify(RsGxsIfaceHelper *ifaceImpl, QObject *parent) :
-    GxsUserNotify(ifaceImpl, parent)
+GxsChannelUserNotify::GxsChannelUserNotify(RsGxsIfaceHelper *ifaceImpl, const GxsGroupFrameDialog *g, QObject *parent) :
+    GxsUserNotify(ifaceImpl, g, parent)
 {
 }
 
@@ -35,11 +35,6 @@ bool GxsChannelUserNotify::hasSetting(QString *name, QString *group)
 	return true;
 }
 
-bool GxsChannelUserNotify::getServiceStatistics(GxsServiceStatistic& stat)
-{
-    return rsGxsChannels->getChannelServiceStatistics(stat);
-}
-
 QIcon GxsChannelUserNotify::getIcon()
 {
 	return QIcon(":/icons/png/channel.png");
diff --git a/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxschannels/GxsChannelUserNotify.h b/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxschannels/GxsChannelUserNotify.h
index d69848aba..df29a0202 100644
--- a/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxschannels/GxsChannelUserNotify.h
+++ b/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxschannels/GxsChannelUserNotify.h
@@ -22,16 +22,16 @@
 #define GXSCHANNELUSERNOTIFY_H
 
 #include "gui/gxs/GxsUserNotify.h"
+#include "gui/gxs/GxsGroupFrameDialog.h"
 
 class GxsChannelUserNotify : public GxsUserNotify
 {
 	Q_OBJECT
 
 public:
-	GxsChannelUserNotify(RsGxsIfaceHelper *ifaceImpl, QObject *parent = 0);
+	GxsChannelUserNotify(RsGxsIfaceHelper *ifaceImpl, const GxsGroupFrameDialog *g, QObject *parent = 0);
 
 	virtual bool hasSetting(QString *name, QString *group);
-    virtual bool getServiceStatistics(GxsServiceStatistic& stat) override;
 
 private:
 	virtual QIcon getIcon();
diff --git a/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxsforums/GxsForumUserNotify.cpp b/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxsforums/GxsForumUserNotify.cpp
index 8c07e2099..876aa3a95 100644
--- a/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxsforums/GxsForumUserNotify.cpp
+++ b/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxsforums/GxsForumUserNotify.cpp
@@ -22,8 +22,8 @@
 #include "GxsForumUserNotify.h"
 #include "gui/MainWindow.h"
 
-GxsForumUserNotify::GxsForumUserNotify(RsGxsIfaceHelper *ifaceImpl, QObject *parent) :
-    GxsUserNotify(ifaceImpl, parent)
+GxsForumUserNotify::GxsForumUserNotify(RsGxsIfaceHelper *ifaceImpl, const GxsGroupFrameDialog *g, QObject *parent) :
+    GxsUserNotify(ifaceImpl, g, parent)
 {
 	mCountChildMsgs = true;
 }
@@ -35,10 +35,6 @@ bool GxsForumUserNotify::hasSetting(QString *name, QString *group)
 
 	return true;
 }
-bool GxsForumUserNotify::getServiceStatistics(GxsServiceStatistic& stat)
-{
-    return rsGxsForums->getForumServiceStatistics(stat);
-}
 
 QIcon GxsForumUserNotify::getIcon()
 {
diff --git a/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxsforums/GxsForumUserNotify.h b/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxsforums/GxsForumUserNotify.h
index bc97550de..172a327ae 100644
--- a/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxsforums/GxsForumUserNotify.h
+++ b/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxsforums/GxsForumUserNotify.h
@@ -28,8 +28,7 @@ class GxsForumUserNotify : public GxsUserNotify
 	Q_OBJECT
 
 public:
-	GxsForumUserNotify(RsGxsIfaceHelper *ifaceImpl, QObject *parent = 0);
-    virtual bool getServiceStatistics(GxsServiceStatistic& stat) override;
+	GxsForumUserNotify(RsGxsIfaceHelper *ifaceImpl, const GxsGroupFrameDialog *g, QObject *parent = 0);
 
 	virtual bool hasSetting(QString *name, QString *group);
 
diff --git a/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxsforums/GxsForumsDialog.cpp b/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxsforums/GxsForumsDialog.cpp
index d8d300dde..e8b7f7d3d 100644
--- a/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxsforums/GxsForumsDialog.cpp
+++ b/retroshare-gui/src/gui/gxsforums/GxsForumsDialog.cpp
@@ -133,7 +133,7 @@ void GxsForumsDialog::shareInMessage(const RsGxsGroupId& forum_id,const QList<Re
 
 UserNotify *GxsForumsDialog::createUserNotify(QObject *parent)
 {
-	return new GxsForumUserNotify(rsGxsForums, parent);
+	return new GxsForumUserNotify(rsGxsForums,this, parent);
 }
 
 QString GxsForumsDialog::text(TextType type)